NFL DRAFT & RUMORS MEGATHREAD

[MrClean]

@GRYPHONK opinion does.

I generally find myself agreeing with him, but I won't put the opinion of anyone here when it comes to OLs over that of Manyweather, Baldinger, et al.

 

[rickd13]

Ok, so there's no player in this years draft you'd be willing to trade next year's first for?

I know I’ve been giving you a hard time about Grey Zabel, but even though I don’t think Kelvin Banks would be a great left tackle, I do think he could be a very good guard in Miami’s scheme and I could live with him being the pick at 13. I think the way the first round looks like it’s shaping up, Banks definitely should be in the discussion as the pick. I think it comes down to Will Johnson, Jahdae Barron, Derrick Harmon, Kenneth Grant, or Kelvin Banks if Miami is stuck picking at 13 and can’t or is not willing to trade down.

 

[MARINO1384]

What I should have stated more clearly is that I do not let RAS override what we see on the field. As someone else pointed out, can you imagine how poor an RAS score Zach Thomas or John Offerdahl would have had back then?
There are certain things I look for. 3 cone for WRs and DBs. Shuttle for OLs. For example. But the entire comglomerate of what makes an RAS isn't something I lend much influence to.

Thomas would be in the negatives for RAS lol

 

[rickd13]

I generally find myself agreeing with him, but I won't put the opinion of anyone here when it comes to OLs over that of Manyweather, Baldinger, et al.

I just like giving @GRYPHONK a hard time because he thinks Zabel will be a bust. I think Zabel is going to be very good and valuable for some organization for a long time.

 

[dolfan91]

 

[MARINO1384]

Would be so Miami to ignore the oline and then finally go oline and draft the biggest reach of the last decade. Don’t care what you think of him, he’s awful value and a massive reach at 13.

 

[joenhre]

So, I am seeing a common theme here.

The vast majority appear to believe Miami will be picking top 5 of the draft.

I find it odd since nothing these last 5 years indicates Miami will be sniffing a top 5 pick. But it appears people are convinced Miami will be in position to draft a QB.

I think many of you are going to be surprised, or disappointed depending on how you look at it if you're expecting that this year.

A weaker roster and what looks to be a tougher schedule. If Tua misses 6 games again, a 5 win season would not be shocking.

I think some people may have been a little fooled by the 8 wins in 2024 and fall back on the notion, if Tua had stayed healthy then the team would have made the playoffs. That might be true but what many fail to consider is the Dolphins played against the weakest schedule in 2024. That is not likely to happen again in 2025 while it is also not likely that Tua starts all 17 games.

IMO even if Tua miraculously starts all 17 games, I see the ceiling for 2025 being 8 wins. Just too many holes on the roster, counting on too many unknowns, and as mentioned above what looks to be a tougher schedule. Grier would have to pull off what, on paper, appears to be a legendary draft to sway my opinion.

 

[MrChadRico]

That guy has no counter moves at all. Every pass rush rep looks exactly the same to me. He just doesn’t look like he ever has an answer.

Yea Stewert is the biggest risk of bust of any 1st round prospect if you ask me.... well Sanders is too but you get what I'm saying.

When multiple scouting reports use the term "he looks lost" that's a huge red flag.

 

[rickd13]

So, I am seeing a common theme here.

The vast majority appear to believe Miami will be picking top 5 of the draft.

I find it odd since nothing these last 5 years indicates Miami will be sniffing a top 5 pick. But it appears people are convinced Miami will be in position to draft a QB.

I think many of you are going to be surprised, or disappointed depending on how you look at it if you're expecting that this year.

I don’t think Miami will be picking in the top five next season but anything is possible. I can, however, see Miami resetting next season with a new GM and head coach if things don’t go well and I would not want the new GM handcuffed by more bad Grier decisions. A new GM and coach may want to move on from Tua or be forced to because of his health. They have to have maneuverability.

 

[MrChadRico]

So, I am seeing a common theme here.

The vast majority appear to believe Miami will be picking top 5 of the draft.

I find it odd since nothing these last 5 years indicates Miami will be sniffing a top 5 pick. But it appears people are convinced Miami will be in position to draft a QB.

I think many of you are going to be surprised, or disappointed depending on how you look at it if you're expecting that this year.

We lost by far our best Olinemen and the leader of our defense in Campbell. Plus we're losing Ramsey.

The team hasn't been this bad since Tuas rookie year.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

So, I am seeing a common theme here.

The vast majority appear to believe Miami will be picking top 5 of the draft.

I find it odd since nothing these last 5 years indicates Miami will be sniffing a top 5 pick. But it appears people are convinced Miami will be in position to draft a QB.

I think many of you are going to be surprised, or disappointed depending on how you look at it if you're expecting that this year.

I don't know if we'll have a top 5 necessarily, but I have zero confidence in Grier as a GM or MickeyD as a HC. I also believe this is the final year for them and Tua and would prefer a new GM and HC pick our knew QB at whatever draft position, which will be higher than the Eagles pick. That's just me.

 

[GRYPHONK]

I don't know if we'll have a top 5 necessarily, but I have zero confidence in Greir as a GM or MickeyD as a HC. I also believe this is the final year for them and Tua and would prefer a new GM and HC pick our knew QB at whatever draft position, which will be higher than the Eagles pick. That's just me.

Gotcha

Like I said, if this is Tuas last year, then I would not even think of using any picks next year as I would agree we would need them for a QB.

However, unlike some, whether they want to admit it or not, this team with Tua will win 7+ games. SO EVEN if we're moving on, then should start realizing Miami will most likely be picking 10-15, on a bad season. Unless Tua is injured early for a long time of course.

Also, I like the idea of the next GM utilizing the picks, not Grier if in fact Grier is gone too.

As I stated, I look at this situation too simplistic. But it makes sense why many wouldn't even consider trading next year's first. It's a gamble not worth taking, especially if you believe we are resetting/ rebuildinh

 

[GRYPHONK]

I don’t think Miami will be picking in the top five next season but anything is possible. I can, however, see Miami resetting next season with a new GM and head coach if things don’t go well and I would not want the new GM handcuffed by more bad Grier decisions. A new GM and coach may want to move on from Tua or be forced to because of his health. They have to have maneuverability.

Well said and makes sense.

GRYPHONK is sold

 

[MrChadRico]

Gotcha

Like I said, if this is Tuas last year, then I would not even think of using any picks next year as I would agree we would need them for a QB.

However, unlike some, whether they want to admit it or not, this team with Tua will win 7+ games. SO EVEN if we're moving on, then should start realizing Miami will most likely be picking 10-15, on a bad season. Unless Tua is injured early for a long time of course.

Also, I like the idea of the next GM utilizing the picks, not Grier if in fact Grier is gone too.

As I stated, I look at this situation too simplistic. But it makes sense why many wouldn't even consider trading next year's first. It's a gamble not worth taking, especially if you believe we are resetting/ rebuildinh

Dolphins best offensive players PFF IN 2024

LT Terron Armstead: 89.4 - GONE
RB De'Von Achane: 81.6
TE Jonnu Smith: 78.2
C Aaron Brewer: 73.3
WR Tyreek Hill: 72.7

Dolphins worst offensive players PFF IN 2024

TE Julian Hill: 37.2 - Still on team
TE Durham Smythe: 43.3
FB Alec Ingold: 44.7
OT Patrick Paul: 44.9 - STARTER IN 2025
RG Liam Eichenberg: 53.1 - Projected Starter as of today

Dolphins best defensive players PFF 2024

DL Calais Campbell: 82.3 - GONE
DL Zach Sieler: 78.9
CB Jalen Ramsey: 76.9 - WILL BE GONE
LB Jordyn Brooks: 71.3
OLB Chop Robinson: 70.0

Worst defensive players PFF 2024

LB David Long Jr: 37.0
LB Anthony Walker Jr: 48.0
DL Benito Jones: 51.3
OLB Tyus Bowser: 53.3
CB Storm Duck: 55.5 - Prohected STARTER

Only player signed with an above average PFF Grade is Daniels who only played 4 games and tore his Achilles.


I don't see how anyone can think we will be close to as good as last year when you look at the roster. I don't care how much you love Tuas game, he's not Brady, this roster is very very bad. Winning 8 games in 2025 with these players will be a miracle.

 

[dolfan91]