roy_miami
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Why don't you tell us what what Cutler done in the NFL to deserve high praise exactly. Since when do elite, canton bound franchise QBs get traded off their original team?
NFL QB's with FEWER College Starts than Tannehill
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Why don't you tell us what what Cutler done in the NFL to deserve high praise exactly. Since when do elite, canton bound franchise QBs get traded off their original team?
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if the coaches think he can go out an win than let the kid play
Jesus Christ. Did I say he was Canton bound? Did I say he was elite?
The point is that his low winning % in college didn't mean he didn't have NFL caliber talent. Certainly better than the two "winners" taken ahead of him: Vince Young and Matt Leinart.
By the way, there's at least one quarterback in Canton who was traded off his original team (and not in some end of his career scenario).
His name? Steve Young.
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The Walrus officially owns this thread. Well played, Sir.
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nice article. wish he is ilk cam newton
Favre only attempted four passes in Atlanta. That's pretty different from Cutler and Young's situation. Drew Brees is another guy who switched teams while still young and after starting for a while, but he wasn't traded.
splitting hairs then. because steve youngs 2 years in Tampa hardly showed he'd be canton bound one day.
roy_miami
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I don't think anybody is saying if you win in college you're guaranteed to be a winner in the NFL, they are saying if you can't win in college you probably won't win in the NFL. There is a big difference between those statements. I'm sure there have been one or two exceptions to that rule, just like there has been one or two hall of fame QBs taken in the fifth round, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Before being traded:
Brett Favre (one year): 4 attempts
Steve Young (two years): 501 attempts
Jay Cutler (three years): 1164 attempts
It's not splitting hairs to say Steve Young's situation is much closer to Cutler's than Favre's. I agree that Young did not look Canton bound in Tampa, but he was still thought highly enough of that the 49ers spent a 2nd and a 4th to get him. Cutler looked better than that in his first three seasons, but the Bears also traded much more to get him.
The Drew Brees situation is fairly similar to Young's as well, but he wasn't traded and had more than 1800 attempts.
These kinds of situations just do not come up very often. My understanding, though, is that the Dolphins nearly traded Dan Marino to the Raiders in the late 80s or early 90s. They actually came to an agreement twice but then Shula reneged and upped the price. Finally Al Davis had had enough and canceled it. But it came close.
Fair enough, as a general rule. But when it's used as a hammer against a certain player instead of as a warning, that's when it crosses the line. Especially when relevant factors that contribute to a win/loss record are ignored.
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I keep trying to convince people that college production is the most useless stat in the history of talent evaluation but it keeps rearing its ugly head. You can't use team stats to evaluate a player.
FWIW Big Ben was 14-10 his first 2 years as a starter in college compared to Tannehill's 16-10.It is true that Roethlisberger followed those 2 years up with a final 13-1 record, but who's to say a 3rd go-around for T-hill wouldn't or couldn't have produced comparable results considering his attributes? Either way how does a 16-10 record for a mediocre team where in his last season his receivers had over 60 certified drops suggest that T-hill could not win in college? I don't get it!
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Think it is fair to say Tannehill was on a pretty poor team, both on O and D from what I have read. Obviously he does have risks having not played QB a load of games, he undoubtedly has strengths and weaknesses, isn't the finished article etc. etc. But the bottom line is he does have potential to be a very good QB, he is in the ideal scenario in Miami and this could turn out really well for us.
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