Nice snippet about Rex Hadnot!

[VanDolPhan]

This OL has the potential to be middle of the road (12th to 18th in the league) and that excites me considering this OL was definately in the bottom few hanging out with the Giants,Arizona's & Clevelands line.

 

[BrazForPhins]

I have to agree. I dont think any one of our linemen can be fairly judged from last season. I believe that Damion McIntosh is one of the better tackles in the league

McIntosh is one more guy we can expect everything under houck..

 

[LAphinfan]

I guess I should have explained more. There were other lineman on the board at that time (2004) that I thought we should take in the later rounds. I was never super impressed with Carey. Chris Snee,and Justin Smiley were the guys I was impressed with. If Gallery and Andrews were off the board by our pick, I didn't see us picking an O-lineman in the first. I thought it would make more sense to grab Snee or Smiley in the later rounds.

Are you suggesting that passing up a stud DT and trading a 1st and 4th for a backup G/T and passing up a probowl G in round 2 was not a solid move?? That's why your not in charge of this team's drafts and Rick Spiel....oh, wait. Nevermind :rofl3:

 

[VanDolPhan]

Are you suggesting that passing up a stud DT and trading a 1st and 4th for a backup G/T and passing up a probowl G in round 2 was not a solid move?? That's why your not in charge of this team's drafts and Rick Spiel....oh, wait. Nevermind :rofl3:

Hindsight is 20/20. We needed OL at the time. We didn't think we'd need DT's as Bowens/Chester were relatively healthy at the time. For all we know we might have a pretty darn good LT by the time all is said and done with Carey.

 

[NJFinFury2004]

I also feel Mckinney is the weak link. I was excited to hear that Saban was thinking of trying out Smith at center. Smith is a big physical boy and I thought he might actually do well there not having to block all of those speedy DE.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Hindsight is 20/20. We needed OL at the time. We didn't think we'd need DT's as Bowens/Chester were relatively healthy at the time. For all we know we might have a pretty darn good LT by the time all is said and done with Carey.

Well, I wish I was posting here at the time. On a Dolphin newsgroup I've been posting since 2003 that DT is our biggest need other than QB. I stand by that emphatically. Especially since you can find gem offensive linemen in weird places, not necessarily the early rounds.

At DT I'm frustrated beyond description we tolerate talentless Larry Chester. Especially combining him with Tim Bowens after Bowens declined in disruptive ability. Settling for two guys who can't get upfield and then subbing tiny DE types at DT on passing downs was perfect symbolism of the personnel idiocy of Spielman/Wanny.

 

[VanDolPhan]

Well, I wish I was posting here at the time. On a Dolphin newsgroup I've been posting since 2003 that DT is our biggest need other than QB. I stand by that emphatically. Especially since you can find gem offensive linemen in weird places, not necessarily the early rounds.

At DT I'm frustrated beyond description we tolerate talentless Larry Chester. Especially combining him with Tim Bowens after Bowens declined in disruptive ability. Settling for two guys who can't get upfield and then subbing tiny DE types at DT on passing downs was perfect symbolism of the personnel idiocy of Spielman/Wanny.

Yup but if Carey turns into a decent LT then this whole battle is a moot point cause rarely do you get LT's after the first round.

Your one of the few on the DT front that can speak up. On this board there was one user who even mentioned Wilfork's name prior to the draft.

 

[inFINSible]

Yup but if Carey turns into a decent LT then this whole battle is a moot point cause rarely do you get LT's after the first round.

Your one of the few on the DT front that can speak up. On this board there was one user who even mentioned Wilfork's name prior to the draft.

That's because there wasn't anybody else who believed that Wilfork would be there when we picked. Most everyone had him going in the top 10-15 picks.

I'm sure that there were many who would have wanted him, if they thought we had a snowball's chance in **** of getting him with the 20th pick.

 

[VanDolPhan]

That's because there wasn't anybody else who believed that Wilfork would be there when we picked. Most everyone had him going in the top 10-15 picks.

I'm sure that there were many who would have wanted him, if they thought we had a snowball's chance in **** of getting him with the 20th pick.

Wasn't many screaming for him when our pick came up either.

 

[inFINSible]

Wasn't many screaming for him when our pick came up either.

more now than there was at the time, no doubt.

 

[FinzManiac]

Yup but if Carey turns into a decent LT then this whole battle is a moot point cause rarely do you get LT's after the first round.

Your one of the few on the DT front that can speak up. On this board there was one user who even mentioned Wilfork's name prior to the draft.

I was pretty livid...I thought we were trading up to secure Wilfork...not Carey. When he got that close to us I couldn't imagine anyone else we would be trading up for...

I was angry when it was Carey...and then my buddy who is a Pats fan called me up after their selection to rub it in that they ended up with him. Talk about salt in a wound...Wilfork was within reach...and I was pretty upset when we blew it.

I was of the opinion at the time that Chester and Bowens were getting too old...doesn't look like I was off now...

 

[Mike13]

Rex will do good this year, and so will McKinney (hopefully) The o line will be an improvement over last year.

 

[Jimmy James]

Wasn't many screaming for him when our pick came up either.

You're right about that. I remember that draft day well because it was almost literally me against the entire rest of the board. I pretty well blasted the pick from the moment it happened, and a big part of it was that I felt like value drafting and drafting for a need coincided so nicely with VW. I knew we were headed for trouble at DT (though we had more than I thought we would due to Chester's injury).

 

[VanDolPhan]

You're right about that. I remember that draft day well because it was almost literally me against the entire rest of the board. I pretty well blasted the pick from the moment it happened, and a big part of it was that I felt like value drafting and drafting for a need coincided so nicely with VW. I knew we were headed for trouble at DT (though we had more than I thought we would due to Chester's injury).

Yup but at the same time it was a lose lose proposition. Spielman would have been blasted for going defense. The media and the fans were ranting on and on that we needed an offensive player.

All I can do is not worry about the past and hope that Carey steps up and plays good at LT. Besides at the very least there are some very good DT's expected to go in the 1st next year (3 or 4 I believe) so we should have a shot at a time when were more likely to compete.

 

[Jimmy James]

Yup but at the same time it was a lose lose proposition. Spielman would have been blasted for going defense. The media and the fans were ranting on and on that we needed an offensive player.

All I can do is not worry about the past and hope that Carey steps up and plays good at LT. Besides at the very least there are some very good DT's expected to go in the 1st next year (3 or 4 I believe) so we should have a shot at a time when were more likely to compete.

I think Spielman got a raw deal in that he didn't really get much of a chance to be the GM of the team before he was removed. His performance very likely would have improved, and he made some nice choices later in last year's draft if you ask me.

One thing I'm really happy about now is that I don't think we have somebody running the personnel stuff who will make decisions based on whether he thinks he might get blasted.

I agree that now is the time for hoping we get something good out of VC and hoping that this year's supplemental draft, next year's free agency, or next year's draft helps us out at DT. We're better off there than we were last year after the injuries, but it's still a position that definitely needs an infusion of youth.