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Not sure why people are trying to blame the media

Here is a perfect solution to this mess dont have your players leaving racially charged or threatening messages whether in jest or not. Be smarter football players or people period.
Im not absolving Martin of anything because maybe he didnt try to fix the situation thats more that we will find out but InCognito is a grown azz man that should know better. Maybe if these millionaires would actually grow up a little we wouldnt be hearing about this.
I do not think the dolphins would take a chance of blowback coming by suspending InCognito if they did not recognize that yes there was something wrong here.
 
dlockz said:
Because thats not the way these accusations in the workplace is handled. It doesnt matter if every body on team is ok with the language, If Martin did not like being referred to in this manner the its open and shut case on that matter.
Also please dont compare an actual conversation between two people and a form of entertainment, because its not close to
to the same thing. I still dont see how a documented conversation and a tweeted accusation or even remotely in the same ball park to use as evidence of anything
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I'm curious how you feel about the Monday Night Buffoons Railing on Incog and The Fins based on a lot of hearsay and racial emotion:

Case in point:
Cris Carter, former junkie who had has Eagles teammates backs to such an extent that his uncontrollable impusles and drug abuses got him kicked off the team

MeShawn Johnson - who never put his teammate first, actually wrote an autobiography when still playing and most pertinently got kicked off the TB active squad for being a team cancer

Ray Lewis - complicit in a murder, would not be cut any deals if not a star player, charges downgraded to a misdemeanor in exchange for turning state's evidence and receiving 1 year parole

Tom Jackson - reported, based on what turns out to be no corroborating evidence that the Patriots players hated Belicheat. Was refuted unmercifully. As a result BB, whose known him at that point for about 15 years stopped talking to him. Later on embarrassed himself in his jest patriots prediction, was called out by Bart Scott after the game and finally lost all credibility the next morning on Mike & Mike lying that he was trying to motivate the jets. read about it here:http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ckson_takes_hit_on_his_credibility/?page=full

My question to you: do any of these hypocritical buffoons, several guilty of more team damaging actions, have any credibility to bloviate with untoward moral indignation about Incog or the Fins? And if you say yes (which I suspect you will), should any of us take anything they say seriously?
 
Vaark said:
I'm curious how you feel about the Monday Night Buffoons Railing on Incog and The Fins based on a lot of hearsay and racial emotion:

Case in point:
Cris Carter, former junkie who had has Eagles teammates backs to such an extent that his uncontrollable impusles and drug abuses got him kicked off the team

MeShawn Johnson - who never put his teammate first, actually wrote an autobiography when still playing and most pertinently got kicked off the TB active squad for being a team cancer

Ray Lewis - complicit in a murder, would not be cut any deals if not a star player, charges downgraded to a misdemeanor in exchange for turning state's evidence and receiving 1 year parole

Tom Jackson - reported, based on what turns out to be no corroborating evidence that the Patriots players hated Belicheat. Was refuted unmercifully. As a result BB, whose known him at that point for about 15 years stopped talking to him. Later on embarrassed himself in his jest patriots prediction, was called out by Bart Scott after the game and finally lost all credibility the next morning on Mike & Mike lying that he was trying to motivate the jets. read about it here:http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ckson_takes_hit_on_his_credibility/?page=full

My question to you: do any of these hypocritical buffoons, several guilty of more team damaging actions, have any credibility to bloviate with untoward moral indignation about Incog or the Fins? And if you say yes (which I suspect you will), should any of us take anything they say seriously?
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I dont really care much about what any of the talking heads have to say about the organization unless they have actual insight.
My take so far . I dont know why Martin abrubtly left but seems to not be ok in head.
Incognito sent racial and threatening messages seems to be no doubt or excuse for that so any criticism of him is fair game on that issue.
 
Here is another interesting tidbit to be posted on Twitter:

Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 8m

It is fairly obvious Martin camp feeding national media. But has provided only the transcript of VM. Why not actual VM?

Every think why everyone went off the deep end to crucify Incongito without actually hearing the voicemail?
 
dlockz said:
I dont really care much about what any of the talking heads have to say about the organization unless they have actual insight.
My take so far . I dont know why Martin abrubtly left but seems to not be ok in head.
Incognito sent racial and threatening messages seems to be no doubt or excuse for that so any criticism of him is fair game on that issue.
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Legal parasite are pulling either naively duped or complicit Martin's strings so they can collect 30-40% of a situation they've helped blow out of all proportion. Just wait, now that several of the PC hotbuttons: race, bullying and workplace insensitivity has been played and pandered selectively to the media, watch for one or both of the hypocritical reverend corporate rabble rousing , anti-semitic "reverends" to insert themselves also.

Why did Martin theatrically storm out in a hissy fit for maximum news exposure for dramatic effect when made the victim of the same prank he participated in 2 weeks previously, instead of just quietly fading away if it wasn't contrived and he wasn't coached to do so? If you're not asking yourself that question then you have a built in bias, believe me!

 
Then you're not really an individual, if you can't form your own logical conclusion, you need the media to guide your opinions. With that being said, people freaking out about this are completely brainwashed, because the media is just distorting this entire stupid issue, just to make a story out of it and get more reads.
 
Canadianfishfan said:
Here is another interesting tidbit to be posted on Twitter:

Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 8m

It is fairly obvious Martin camp feeding national media. But has provided only the transcript of VM. Why not actual VM?

Every think why everyone went off the deep end to crucify Incongito without actually hearing the voicemail?
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Because then you would be able to see the context in which the voicemails were left. I have no doubt in my mind that they were in a joking manner and not meant to insult Martin. Did they offend Martin, maybe, probably more so his parents once they heard them. As of now, his parents, the lawyers, are the ones handling the PR machine, and we are only going to get what they want the public to hear.

I am a firm believer that once everything unfolds from this story, Cogs, will look like a meat head and Martin will look like a *****. Basically what everyone thought of them before this media **** storm took place.
 
mnphinfan said:
Because then you would be able to see the context in which the voicemails were left. I have no doubt in my mind that they were in a joking manner and not meant to insult Martin. Did they offend Martin, maybe, probably more so his parents once they heard them. As of now, his parents, the lawyers, are the ones handling the PR machine, and we are only going to get what they want the public to hear.

I am a firm believer that once everything unfolds from this story, Cogs, will look like a meat head and Martin will look like a *****. Basically what everyone thought of them before this media **** storm took place.
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That's exactly what thought crossed my mind when I got up this AM - but lost track of it so thanks. I think it's just as plausible that Martin is a mommy's boy, his lawyer mom heard it, was outraged because of the threat to her (and who could blame her) and because as a lawyer, like a shark, she smelled the opportunity for blood in the water. As a mama's boy, Martin probably did show her and she is very influential influencing the attitudes of her son..and aware that he's not cut out for macho trench warfare. She may be driving this whole - clown car for all we know - down to the obviously staged theatrical cafeteria hissy fit 2 weeks after he played the same prank on Gardner!

 
Vaark said:
That's exactly what thought crossed my mind when I got up this AM - but lost track of it so thanks. I think it's just as plausible that Martin is a mommy's boy, his lawyer mom heard it, was outraged because of the threat to her (and who could blame her) and because as a lawyer, like a shark, she smelled the opportunity for blood in the water. As a mama's boy, Martin probably did show her and she is very influential influencing the attitudes of her son..and aware that he's not cut out for macho trench warfare. She may be driving this whole clown car for all we know.

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This is how i am starting to lean...
 
Dan le betard on espn pretty much said that Martin is filing a lawsuit and he is done he has chosen to end his career miami is ready to go to court as they have lawyers working side by side with them he said dolphins players want incognito back and not Martin they don't understand what Martin was going through so I mean **** john Martin for being a bitch about the situation and **** sueing people *****s do that
 
This is why the media and twitter is dangerous. They throw **** out there and everyone jumps on board and absolutely crucifies the person they are talking about.

Not one person, until late yesterday mentioned the fact that no-one has actually heard the VM. That is reporting? This is what the world has come to?

If you're going to attempt to end a mans career, no matter how guilty, the man deserves the evidence to be given. Not a doctored transcript of an interpretation of the VM.
 
FYI, Richie's picture is at the top of Drudge right now. ugh.
 
the media is really eating this story up...all over regular news (CBS, ABC, NBC etc) and even had a 5-10 minute segment on CNN...theyre really making it sound a lot worse than it is...
 
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