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Am I seeing that Fournette weighed in at 240?

Matt Miller‏Verified account @nfldraftscout 14s15 seconds ago

- Fournette told me the 240 pound weight was "water weight, it'll come off". Hearing he'll run sub 4.45
 
Matt Miller‏Verified account @nfldraftscout 14s15 seconds ago

- Fournette told me the 240 pound weight was "water weight, it'll come off". Hearing he'll run sub 4.45

Wonder if he'll get flagged for a diluted urine sample...
 
Elijah Hood also sticks out as surprisingly heavy, at 230+. He may be a Christine Michael kind of riser after this week.
 
Dion Dawkins came in at 6'4" 315 with 35 inch arms...listed as a tackle, I think he is more suited to play guard. Nice mean streak, very good build on him as well (thick lower body)...depending on what we do in Free Agency...I would take a stab at him in round 2.

Intersted in how he tests...if he tests well like I think he will, he could move in the top of round 2.
 
I love hearing about all these risers. We're going to need a lot of them or a significant trade if we're going to use our 2nd round pick (54 overall) to get a quality LB like everyone seems to think is going to be possible. And, we need that 2nd tier of LB's to not separate themselves so at least one drops to wherever we end up in the 2nd round. I can totally see a trade similar to the one we pulled off to land Xavien Howard last year, where we move up to get the last quality guy in that tier.

Hopefully the interviews go well and we don't have as many players' stock fall.

On a side note, I'm curious how Dan Feeney is going to test. His tape is stellar, but I'm hearing he may slide a bit, which I find intriguing.
 
Sounds like Garrett Bolles may end up being the number one OT in the draft when all is said and done
 
Today is the first big day of the combine with the on-field testing....RBs, OL, and specials will run the 40, 3 cone, vert, etc....
 
Dion Dawkins, a player I am very interested in for the fins ran a 5.05....listed as a tackle, he could be an all-star guard.

Forrest Lamp dropped a 4.99 he will be a top 20 or so pick.
 
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David Sharpe out there running like Steven Seagal. I'm surprised his wrists didn't break. That was embarrassing.
 
David Sharpe out there running like Steven Seagal. I'm surprised his wrists didn't break. That was embarrassing.

He started that run, I ran to the bathroom and came back just in time to see him finish.
 
All it does is overrate certain players because they run a fast 40 like Hayward-Bey comes to mind. The 40 rocketed him into the top 10 I believe. Big bust

Teams do tend to overrate speed. Oakland for years put such a premium on speed. For me, if I had two guys rated essentially even and one guy ran faster I might move him ahead of the other player. It would just help flush out my pecking order so to speak.

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Absolutely. The big disconnect with guys like us in regards to evaluating prospects is that we don't know these players. I have no idea how much of a nightmare they are in real life - and if they are - the chances of them turning their life around with no supervision and a fat wallet.

Dalvin Cook has a chance to be great in the NFL. And reports are he's finally got his head on straight. Do I believe that after those two ugly incidents? Without talking to him, **** no. As of right now I wouldn't touch him. But after a chance to sit down with him and see where his priorities are, who knows.

I tend to think South Beach is not conducive for the weak willed. Guys that didn't have issues in college come to Miami and are problematic. See Misi and Pouncey. And I'm expected to think guys with a checkered past can come and get it together? Not so much. One on one time with players is invaluable. Cannot be overstated. Using that time to ask if a player's mom is a hooker is an offense fireable on the spot. ****ing Ireland ...

Also, the workout drills for certain positions are uber important. I loved Trae Waynes coming out. But he did seem a bit stiff to me even if he could fly going in a straight line. His workouts confirmed my suspicions and he went from a 1st to 3rd for me. Minnesota saw first hand what happens when you draft a corner in the 1st round that can't stay with receivers step for step. His other tools are so high end that he might be able to overcome those hips with work, but I doubt it.

Jarvis Jones is another one that jumps out to me. I thought he was the best player in college football coming out. Unstoppable at Georgia. But his combine was freaking lunacy. I thought his dog died or something that day it was so bad. And sure enough he hasn't been able to overcome his athletic limitations.

And let's not forget that pathetic workout and bench press that Jonathan Martin queefed out there. Calling him soft is an insult to pillows after that tragedy. He fell totally off my board after that. And then we draft him in the 2nd. Typical.

I could go on and on - as the combine and draft are 2 of my favorite weeks of the year - with examples of the importance of those few days. Even for someone who watches a ton of college football like me, I miss stuff. Lots of stuff. This is the time to get questions answered. Short story long, the combine is important.

Good point on Jarvis Jones. I can't remember a worse combine considering I thought he was a star in the making.
 
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