One HUGE key for this team:

[raving]

One huge key for this team is finding chemistry in the deep ball.

With the deep ball everything opens up - quick strike ability. Confidence. Defenses being spread thin. Multiple threats with different looks and this team can open other defenses up and take them apart.

The Jury is out with Chad Henne right now and his ability to slow down and make the deep throw COUNT!

His problems are psychological/neurological. He lacks poise and confidence that would allow him to relax just a bit and allow the game to slow down just a bit more for him. Then he could look and allow his body determine just where his receiver can best catch the ball.

Hartline was visibly aggravated/frustrated with Henne over threw the deep ball - and Henne missed that new kid #10 twice. He also missed Hilliard (#26) down the sideline on a scramble. Henne had another second in that one two.

If we succeed with the deep ball we can play with anyone. If not we will continue to be average or worse.

 

[MarshallFin1]

Deep ball or we suck eh? lol at this thread.

 

[Heinegrabber]

I see your point.

 

[Kdawg954]

Just the THREAT of having the deep ball improves this offense. We didn't have that threat last year . . . so that in itself is progress.

The Hilliard throw, Henne had to place that to where only his guy could make a play . . . last week Henne had a ball picked off to Davone Bess . . . because he did NOT do that. Give him some slack man.

He didn't overthrow Gates twice, he overthrew him once, and Matt Moore overthrew him as well.

The Hartline play was close, you like to see Henne convert that one.

I agree, you wanna see Henne hit some of those homeruns going forward . . . get all the misfires out the way now, work on them in practice and be ready for the regular season. The Fins do need the "quick score" element in this offense . . . atleast they have added the pieces to make it happen, now they just need the conversions.

 

[Heinegrabber]

One huge key for this team is finding chemistry in the deep ball.

With the deep ball everything opens up - quick strike ability. Confidence. Defenses being spread thin. Multiple threats with different looks and this team can open other defenses up and take them apart.

The Jury is out with Chad Henne right now and his ability to slow down and make the deep throw COUNT!







His problems are psychological/neurological. He lacks poise and confidence that would allow him to relax just a bit and allow the game to slow down just a bit more for him. Then he could look and allow his body determine just where his receiver can best catch the ball.

Hartline was visibly aggravated/frustrated with Henne over threw the deep ball - and Henne missed that new kid #10 twice. He also missed Hilliard (#26) down the sideline on a scramble. Henne had another second in that one two.

If we succeed with the deep ball we can play with anyone. If not we will continue to be average or worse.

Best post today.

 

[justdev7]

Deep ball or we suck eh? lol at this thread.

There's nothing funny about it imo. I know chad henne can throw the deep ball and his struggles throwing the deep ball in his pro career up to this point are definitely because of a lack of confidence. When Phillip rivers (the best deep ball passer in the league) throws a bomb It's second nature. When henne was at Michigan it looked easy for him. But as soon as henne had his first rough game as a started he began measuring and trying to guide all his passes in and It's most noticeable on his deep ball.

I honestly believe that if he gets comfortable with the offense and regains some confidence in himself, we'll see a lot of deep ball connections this season.



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[Jamaicankid21]

Im just happy to see Henne putting touch on his deepballs and not trying to rocket it into the hands of the WR.

 

[MD]

The deep ball is missed even by the elite. The throw Henne made to Hilliard was put where only Hilliard could make a play. No problem. On the deep ball to Hartline it looked to me that he just turned and threw to where he expected Hartline to be without looking for him. Bad throw no doubt.

I do like that he is becoming more aggressive with the deep routes.

 

[dolphone]

It's another one of Henne's problems: touch and accuracy. We didn't honestly expect him to exorcise ALL demons in one outing, right?

I agree he will get better with it as he gets more time with these guys. You really have to work with your receivers for a while before those things become second nature.

 

[sharp]

Deep ball or we suck eh? lol at this thread.

What? he never said that. He said its a huge KEY.

Which is true. Just the threat of the deep ball opens the field up, but connecting on it not only lets us "compete with anyone" because we can do that already. Connecting on the deep ball on a good % puts us in an elite category.

Hitting Clyde Gates for that 1-2 bombs a game, or hartline for that 1 he always gets.. Makes the difference in a field position/tds/fgs/underneath routes/PA/running game

Some how hartline gets open deep, I know people like to credit the falcons for the breakdown in coverage, but the fact is hartline gets open down the field a ton, henne never hits him. It does seem to be more mental than physical, hes just got to relax. Its good to see the field more open now and the mentality of gun slinging because thats so anti-henning or conservative.

If we can consistently connect on the deep ball, we are upper echelon and a playoff contender. We can do nearly everything else but that. You have to spread the field.

 

[SRM]

I don't really think Henne is ever going to correct his deep ball. He's been playing QB for 12+ years now and still hasn't figured that out.

 

[mrodriguez4096]

I'll say this much about Henne, hell it applies to anyone, when you have confidence in yourself you do well. Can you imagine if with this new offense and our OC Henne builds that confidence in himself??

That takes me back to last season and our OC. You can see Henne thinking too much, too worried to do anything. It didn't help that he would start to get into rhythm and he'd get pulled out for the cat.

I am liking what I am seeing far. The next game against the bucs will be very telling of this consistency that Henne lacked last season.

 

[raving]

What made Marino SO great - or lets take it down a notch - what makes Brees a top 5 QB in the game?

The answer has everything to do with the mental or psychological or neurological aspects of the game.

I have been fascinated by the technology used by the US Seals which harkens back to what has "always" been known or "ancient Chinese secret". The seals are working with men who in order to be a Seal must show the ability to function in ALL kinds of complex and extremely demanding physical and mental activities.

The task that flunks most Seals has been the underwater tests that include instructors swimming to the bottom of the pool to meet a Seal and arbitrarily take his breathing apparatus out of his mouth, tangle it up behind him, fill his mask with water and see if: The Seal swims to the top - an extremely powerful human REFLEX to swim to the top in order to breathe, or stay below and work to untangle his breathing gear and continue...

The Seals wanted more passing of Seals through this extremely demanding task, less failing. So they discovered that Seals or human beings can be taught to suppress the reflex of avoiding drowning, by teaching the body and mind to overcome the obstacle incrementally adding more complex physical tasks as the subject moves through a sequence of successes.

So the brain can be re-wired.

On that Hartline throw you see a fundamental breakdown of Henne namely because of fear - likely fear of failure.

So what the coaches need to help him do is help him go through a set of incrementally more complex tasks with a level of success prior to graduated to the next level.

Much of what must be taught would be around the ability to think when he is in the midst of an adrenal surge.

Henne needs to work on deceptions around where he is looking.

You see Henne panic in one play where he was looking on his receiver - who was tightly covered - Henne panicked and tried to throw it to Thomas I believe on the edge and just by shear luck avoided a pick six from 70 yards out. Those have been the plays that destroyed our team for years.

Once he learns to move into this set more then he can be a REAL NFL QB.

 

[DKphin]

The deep ball is missed even by the elite. The throw Henne made to Hilliard was put where only Hilliard could make a play. No problem. On the deep ball to Hartline it looked to me that he just turned and threw to where he expected Hartline to be without looking for him. Bad throw no doubt.

I do like that he is becoming more aggressive with the deep routes.

Go back and watch Marino's career. He seldom missed Duper when he broke coverage deep. With Henne, you never know what is going to happen. I know many will say that was one of the greatest QBs ever. Well, that is my standard and he will have to at least approach Dan's level of excellence before I will be satisfied.

 

[Heinegrabber]

Im just happy to see Henne putting touch on his deepballs and not trying to rocket it into the hands of the WR.

That was one of the knocks on him coming out of college. He does not throw with any touch. He will fire a screen pass instead of putting the back in a position to turn it up field. He did it last night as well.