Only 2 QB's taken outside of the 1st round since 03 have been successful

[ticophin]

I´ll trust Philbin, and especially SHERMAN on this one too...

 

[Tigers2003]

There are first-round QBs and then there are QBs that get taken in the first round due to overdrafting. My personal take is that Tannehill is in the latter category. Would I draft him? Yes, I'd take a risk on him in the 2nd, the same way we took a risk on Beck and Henne. But drafting him in the first round does not make him a first round QB, nor does it endow him with any greater statistical probability of success.

Put another way, I agree we must draft a first-round QB (which is different than saying "we must draft a QB in the first round"). But there aren't any available to us this draft.

THIS + 1billion!!! Gets it in spades!!! Timing and placement is not good for us. Only QB worth a number one this year would be Luck and....well you know. :err::err:

 

[Mattyb]

Lots of people want us to draft a QB in the 1st round to show we are committed to building the team. However, when was the last time the Dolphins were in the position to draft the QB they needed? From just doing a once over check, I think we have been in position to draft the right guy twice since 2005. One being when we passed on Matt Ryan because we were not sure on him and did not want to dole our the money. The second being when we selected second and Aaron Rodgers was taken mid first round. A lot of people here seem to insinuate that its the Dolphins inept ability to commit to QB, but on a second look its more the fact that we have not had the QB available to us to draft.

 

[dabeastdabone]

Maybe instead of just factoring in the 1st round QB success rate you might want to consider the success rate of any 1st round pick. I mean people act like if it's not a QB it's going to be a ALL Pro type player, which is simply not true. Failure rates are about the same at all positions in the first round. In Miami maybe 1-7 or so is a "good" player. IMO our last "Great" 1st round pick was Ricmond Webb, who was much better than Long is...and was also from Texas A&M (just a note). I might be inclinded to throw Troy Vincent in there too. 55

 

[fishbanger]

If we dont draft Tannehill, KC will. Lots of teams looking to draft a QB and lots of teams believe Tannehill is a first round value.

Matt Ryan has been to the playoffs 4 years in a row and Rodgers has one SB MVP and is one of the best. There are not that many good QBs compare to the other positions available in every draft. Because in the last 29 years we have not had a QB that has fallen to us in value according to points on a draft board. This is ridiculous when it comes to the QB position and thats why we suck.

 

[Mattyb]

The big misses in my eyes are Rodgers and Brees, but people act like the dolphins screw up by not drafting a QB most drafts. Most drafts there are no quality QB's

 

[Vaark]

If we dont draft Tannehill, KC will. Lots of teams looking to draft a QB and lots of teams believe Tannehill is a first round value.

Matt Ryan has been to the playoffs 4 years in a row and Rodgers has one SB MVP and is one of the best. There are not that many good QBs compare to the other positions available in every draft. Because in the last 29 years we have not had a QB that has fallen to us in value according to points on a draft board. This is ridiculous when it comes to the QB position and thats why we suck.

Ryan was to his credit in the POs 3 out of 4 years but with no wins. I think you're confusing him for Flacco taken at 18 who in fact was in the playoffs all his 4 years and has 5 wins to show for it. IMO that's an argument for trading back, collecting another pick and grabbing Weeden right around there.

 

[shanegerard]

Collecting more picks like Koa Misi and Jared Odrick no thanks.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

Actually you do. Of the 31 QBs drafted in the 1st round since 2000, only nine started the first game of their rookie season with six of those coming in the last four seasons.

Of the 18 QBs drafted in the Top 10 since 2000, 11 did not begin their respected season as the starting QB.

And since 2008, that ratio is quite different. The league is vastly different a decade later.


Kinda funny you had to go back to 2000 to make your case. When things have changed so much. My point stands. You don't invest a TOP 10 pick on a QB and sit him. You just don't. You have to see what the investment and ceiling is, early.

 

[allsilverdreams]

ya well i payed $2.00 for a gallon of gas in 2003.now im paying almost double

 

[finfan54]

Yes he was but that was before 2003.

which should naturally bring up the question on why do we need to look at up to 2003??? because teenagers cant discern past that.

 

[finfan54]

ya well i payed $2.00 for a gallon of gas in 2003.now im paying almost double

its bush's fault. and that damn dick cheney and jeff ireland.

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Didnt some guy who bagged groceries end up winning a super bowl and going to the dance 3 times?

 

[LarryFinFan]

You don't draft a QB in the 1st round, much less a TOP 10 pick, and sit him. The Jets, moved up and grabbed their QB and have commited long term to him. Now do I think that was smart? NO. But at least after 3-4 years you know what you have.

Unfortunately, like the NYJ, MIA will be stuck with a below avg project all the while not having the weapons Sanchita had his first few years to help acclimate him to the job. So MIA is in the position to draft a TOP player this year, and IMO Tannehill isn't a TOP player nor a TOP talent. The same people who hate on Henne, will be doing the same when this kid is throwing to Revis more than he is to Bess.

I'll be you were one of those guys that couldn't believe that Quinn was left on the board and we didn't take him either ??

I don't know that Tannehill is a franchise guy, but I can tell you he's the NEXT best QB option that MAY be available to us. If you don't like Tannehill (and he's available to us), are u suggesting we just sit tight with MMoore and Garrard and choose a DE or OL ?? That's exciting... If Cleveland takes Tannehill, do you suggest we take Weeden at #8 ?? Is he worth that pick ?? What if we get to that point, Tannehill is taken and we can't find a trade down partner ?? Ireland is damned if does and damned if he doesn't it seems... No one will be happy if we don't come out of the draft without some kind of a QB in the top rounds, yet he'll get ostracized and hung in effigy whether he takes Tannehill, Weeden or none of the above...

 

[fishbanger]

I think if GM ends up with one of these QBs whenever picked I will be happy: tannehill, Weeden, Osweiler. Maybe not so happy with cousins but OK if in 3rd round.

 

[dlockz]

I'll be you were one of those guys that couldn't believe that Quinn was left on the board and we didn't take him either ??

I don't know that Tannehill is a franchise guy, but I can tell you he's the NEXT best QB option that MAY be available to us. If you don't like Tannehill (and he's available to us), are u suggesting we just sit tight with MMoore and Garrard and choose a DE or OL ?? That's exciting... If Cleveland takes Tannehill, do you suggest we take Weeden at #8 ?? Is he worth that pick ?? What if we get to that point, Tannehill is taken and we can't find a trade down partner ?? Ireland is damned if does and damned if he doesn't it seems... No one will be happy if we don't come out of the draft without some kind of a QB in the top rounds, yet he'll get ostracized and hung in effigy whether he takes Tannehill, Weeden or none of the above...

If Tannehill is gone no qb left is worth the 8th pick. Im fine with Weeden after the second round because the level of investment is not so great if you miss but i dont know about you but Im tired of throwing away second round picks.