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Only fair to give AJ the start

LOL The self-proclaimed experts or spin doctors are out in force. LMAO!
 
Schleprock said:
I watched the game today finally. Frerotte went 7/18 , half of those were at least 15+ yard passes. His long was 42 yards. First pass long to Chambers was perfect because he left it short for him to come back to and CC dropped it, 3 drops by McMike, 2 drops by Booker (the 1 lob looked like pass interference by Townsend), 1 drop by Morris, 1 intentional throw at Ricky's feet that was a good play because the screen was blown up, and 1 nice pass down the sideline in the 2nd qrt. that Chambers caught but couldn't get the second foot in. So that makes a total of 2 passes Frerotte threw that were truly bad.

The first fumble was not his fault, he never had time nor saw it coming, second one was.

Feeley was something like 16/20 with about 12 of those being dump offs in the flat. His long was 12 yards.

I failed to see why everyone has been crying so much about Frerotte since Friday. I think I know why, it's because they are looking at the paper stats and not what actually went on. There was a big difference between the Steelers #1 D that Gus saw and the #2's who were in by the time AJ got in there late in the 2nd.
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I finally saw the game on nfl network today and I totally agree with you, the fumble was not Frerottes fault at all (He had no time to drop at all), he intentionallly put the ball behind Chambers who did not adjust to it, too many dropped balls to mention and they seemed to happen on 2nd down and instead of being a new 1st down we were put into 3rd and long situations also no running game, in general I thought he had a pretty good performance.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
The Pass to CC was underthrown, it may have been intentional, but CC didnt know that, as CC said it was a matter of he and Gus not on teh same page. That should come but it isnt a drop. The deep ball to Booker ws batted away by teh db, not a drop. The 1 "drop" by McMike was a ball clearly behind him, he had to turn 180 degrees on a dime. Yes could have been caught but it is a tough catch. Not a drop.

Yeah throwing at Ricky's feet was smart, but I find it funny that a Gus supporter uses that for Gus when numerous Gus supporters bashed AJ supporters for saying the same thing for AJ in teh Chicago game.

Fact is this, there were times during teh Pitt game where teh receivers could have given Frerrotte help by making the tough catch and yes maybe they should have. However, It doesnt change the fact that those passes were off the intended mark. They were not accurate throws all but two required a sign adjustment by teh receiver to have a chance to catch teh ball.

This inaacuracy of Gus is not just a one game phenomenon, it has plagued him his whole career. So you can spin it all you want. It also doesnt say he is not the best qb to start of teh 4 on the roster, it just is what it is, Gus is not going to wow you with his accuracy.

As far as AJ's "short" passes. I find it very amusing that many criticize him now for doing what everyone criticized him for not doing last year, that is checking off to his second or third or safety valve receivers. at a minimum, 4 of his short passes were teh result of pressure from a blitz where he hit the open guy rather than take a sack. 4 were designed plays, they were one step and throw to teh receiver at the line, so at a minimum that accounts for half his completions. Now at least passes were the 9 to 14 yd passes, that is 11 to 12 of teh 16. So maybe at best he had 4 passes where he went short and could have gone deep but didnt.

I suggest if you want people to objectively watch, you do the same.
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Let me say 1 think for the sake of Feeley... 16 for 20 and less than 100 yards..Incredible!:rofl3: 16 PASSES.. LESS THAN 100 YARDS... :fire:
 
I think the point is once again after last game gus has definatley not outplayed feeley in this preseason so new coach or not the incumbent should have the first shot at being the
starter! If Feeley isnt given any more chance for the starting job then he has, this qb comp was a sham and saban should be ashamed to say that this was a equal comp as gus has been handed the starting job w/o showing that he has earned it and I watched the game and went back over every play fo note at least twice and gus was not good at all the balls were not thrown well and he didn't shwo all that awareness the guskateers talk about!

On the other hand Feeley looked very comfortable in the pocket and when blitzed he was making very good desicions for instance there was a blitz he saw, he reset snap count, corner blitzed and he hit the rb for a good open field gain that then the rb fumble but still smart desicion on another he got blitzed side stepped and threw a comp and last i saw a blitz he felt it rolled out and made the throw, very effecient and safe and that is what we need from our qb, to manage the game and make the throws when they are needed!
 
marinotoclayton said:
Personally I am not too enamoured with either of them right now. I just hope things come together in time for start of season. Otherwise we should start thinking what Qb we will be taking next year with that #1 pick. And personally i think we probably will be selecting a Qb in next year draft anyways.
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We will I'm sure.
 
If Frerotte continues getting outplayed in practice this week and still gets to start the Tampa game I am going to get that sinking feeling of deja vu ala Fiedler/ Feeley. Gus has looked like sh@#. The kind that's impossible to scrape off your cleats
 
Canadianfishfan said:
Let me say 1 think for the sake of Feeley... 16 for 20 and less than 100 yards..Incredible!:rofl3: 16 PASSES.. LESS THAN 100 YARDS... :fire:
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Let me say one thing for Gus, if he was standing 5 feet away from teh broad side of a barn, he may be able to hit it 4 out of 10 times. :roflmao:
 
eddie4fins said:
I finally saw the game on nfl network today and I totally agree with you, the fumble was not Frerottes fault at all
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Yes it was, he has to protect the ball. This is basic football, you fumble it's your fault.
 
Schleprock said:
I watched the game today finally. Frerotte went 7/18 , half of those were at least 15+ yard passes. His long was 42 yards.
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The math does not add up. 7/18 for 87 yards. Subtract that one 42 yarder. 6/17 for 45 yards. That averages 2.64 yards/attemp and 7.5 yards/completion.

Feeley did check down a lot. It's better than him staring down receivers and getting picked off though. Maybe he's learning and trying to practice check downs. Maybe they never called a deep pattern (hard to tell on TV).

Fererotte definitely goes deep more and I like his tendency to go deep on blitzes. I would like to see Feeley try the same thing next week, regardless of whether he plays 1 or 2.

The probability is that both these guys are going to play this year because of injury.
 
Schleprock said:
I watched the game today finally. Frerotte went 7/18 , half of those were at least 15+ yard passes. His long was 42 yards. First pass long to Chambers was perfect because he left it short for him to come back to and CC dropped it, 3 drops by McMike, 2 drops by Booker (the 1 lob looked like pass interference by Townsend), 1 drop by Morris, 1 intentional throw at Ricky's feet that was a good play because the screen was blown up, and 1 nice pass down the sideline in the 2nd qrt. that Chambers caught but couldn't get the second foot in. So that makes a total of 2 passes Frerotte threw that were truly bad.

The first fumble was not his fault, he never had time nor saw it coming, second one was.

Feeley was something like 16/20 with about 12 of those being dump offs in the flat. His long was 12 yards.

I failed to see why everyone has been crying so much about Frerotte since Friday. I think I know why, it's because they are looking at the paper stats and not what actually went on. There was a big difference between the Steelers #1 D that Gus saw and the #2's who were in by the time AJ got in there late in the 2nd.
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I watched Feeley again today. I thought he played much better than last time, but here is what caught my eye other than the obvious dump off stat padding. He was off on the throws downfield. Once he threw it away on the rollout scrammble and that is good, that is what i want to see more out of him. But when he got down to the 30, #17 fumbled. which then reminded me when I thought about how Feeley got screwed. Frerotte got even more screwed. I think everyone should just except whatever QB is playing because I think we all can agree on one thing, and that is neither of these guys will be our starter next year. Suck it up, stop the whining, and blame the people who deserve blaming. Frerrote is not being treated fairly at all by people. This is a team game, The QB cannot throw and catch the damn ball and block! its not feasable!
 
I will accept and support whomever starts. I just find it funny how teh objective fans as they call themselves are very one-sided.
 
adamprez2003 said:
If Frerotte continues getting outplayed in practice this week and still gets to start the Tampa game I am going to get that sinking feeling of deja vu ala Fiedler/ Feeley. Gus has looked like sh@#. The kind that's impossible to scrape off your cleats
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You are absolutely wrong.
 
finfan54 said:
You are absolutely wrong.
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Nah you are, there no we both said teh oppisite of each other, are they bot fact or is yours cause you said so?
 
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