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Opinions on Lazor?

Too many rinky dink screen passes and throws behind the line of scrimmage.

We don't have the personnel to get a lot out of those plays. It's especially perplexing that Charles Clay is playing on one knee and he's the guy we keep going to on those plays.
 
There are some CLEAR changes in the blocking schemes being used that are a definite improvement. That may be him of the new line coach...one of them is doing a good job. They can't help that Smith sucks and Colledge is mediocre...

Lazor also did make adjustments to compensate for the issues we had last week, execution was poor.

So far, I think he is a big improvement...it is just the personnel are not executing in many cases...
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Too many rinky dink screen passes and throws behind the line of scrimmage.

We don't have the personnel to get a lot out of those plays. It's especially perplexing that Charles Clay is playing on one knee and he's the guy we keep going to on those plays.
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He had to the way our line was getting manhandled...so I understand why. I agree that I don't like the way we run screens and Clay should be used down the field more.
 
Tannenballs said:
Honestly I don't like spread offenses period. It makes your defense a little soft because they spent a lot of time practicing against it in camp, and you only get so many full pads practices in camp. But it's still better than Sherman. He has made some questionable play calls that I touched on in the "UNBIASED Tannehill Scouting Report" thread. Like calling a deep pass on 3rd and 25 on your own 20 yard line. Run a draw and punt the ball. Or the throwback screen to Dion Sims who has no YAC ability. It was 1st and 20 so not a bad play call.... if you're throwing it to Charles Clay...
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Honestly, on third and 25 why not throw it deep? What's five yards going to do for your punter?

I know it's the thing to do in the NFL but it's nice to see one of our coaches has balls.

Philbin lost my support with 2:20 to go in the first half. I wanted to punch my tv. F*** him
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Everyone thought Lazor to be the answer at OC, and one of our most important signings, in preseason. I won a bet with a friend in saying that he would not last through the second game without being questioned by this forum. Thanks.

So, after two games, is he still the answer or, just another OC who needs to be replaced?
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I'm not questioning him at all through 2 games, so looks like you lost the bet. You should have bet Philbin, not Lazor

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MRojas4 said:
My hope, is that Philbin is letting Lazor run the O and not babysitting.

One could obviously tell the 2 minute surrender flag vs the Bills was a Philbin call.
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So you already know he is babysitting.
 
fish920 said:
Honestly, on third and 25 why not throw it deep? What's five yards going to do for your punter?

I know it's the thing to do in the NFL but it's nice to see one of our coaches has balls.

Philbin lost my support with 2:20 to go in the first half. I wanted to punch my tv. F*** him
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On 3rd and 25, the probability of converting is minimal, interception probability sky rockets, and so does sack/fumble.

You risk a 5% chance of converting the pass for a 50% interception and say, 25% sack, 20% incompletion.

Why even bother? Run the draw or screen play, hope for a miracle run. If not then whatever, get a few more yards,send in the best punter in the league and play field position.
 
Not as many wrinkles as I expected. For example, if you use wide receiver screens often, there's a cheap offshoot. With two receivers on that side, the one who generally blocks fakes the block and takes off downfield. That often catches the cornerback completely flatfooted. The quarterback fakes to the receiver who peeled back and then targets the guy racing down the sideline. I lost a first half bet in a college game last week when the opponent successfully executed that play in the final minute of the second quarter.

If we use standard screen plays or wide receiver screens, they should be on second down, specifically second and short or second and medium. Those plays have a chance to break open but more often than not you'll settle for a short gain or short loss. That doesn't kill you on second and short. Too often we run those plays on first down, or on third and long like early last week. That's simply a mistake because it ruins your expectation.

More downfield aggressive plays. I suspect Lazor is beginning to figure that out. Don't play scared and rely on yards after catch. I think we should throw deep more than once or twice per game. The openings are there. Makes no sense we can't connect on a competent percentage.

Run the ball early in the game. Get to 15+ rushes at halftime and it's remarkable how the bottom line cooperates. This game is interesting in that regard because Kansas City has a troubled offensive and defensive line and obviously Charles is hurt. No reason we shouldn't enter halftime with an edge in rushing attempts, unless they simply control the ball like last week at Denver, 75 plays to 40. Seldom happens like that two weeks in a row.

Use tempo to run the ball, especially after a successful play. Nothing wears on a defensive front more than being forced to line up quickly and then getting smacked via drive blocking.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Not as many wrinkles as I expected. For example, if you use wide receiver screens often, there's a cheap offshoot. With two receivers on that side, the one who generally blocks fakes the block and takes off downfield. That often catches the cornerback completely flatfooted. The quarterback fakes to the receiver who peeled back and then targets the guy racing down the sideline. I lost a first half bet in a college game last week when the opponent successfully executed that play in the final minute of the second quarter.

If we use standard screen plays or wide receiver screens, they should be on second down, specifically second and short or second and medium. Those plays have a chance to break open but more often than not you'll settle for a short gain or short loss. That doesn't kill you on second and short. Too often we run those plays on first down, or on third and long like early last week. That's simply a mistake because it ruins your expectation.

More downfield aggressive plays. I suspect Lazor is beginning to figure that out. Don't play scared and rely on yards after catch. I think we should throw deep more than once or twice per game. The openings are there. Makes no sense we can't connect on a competent percentage.

Run the ball early in the game. Get to 15+ rushes at halftime and it's remarkable how the bottom line cooperates. This game is interesting in that regard because Kansas City has a troubled offensive and defensive line and obviously Charles is hurt. No reason we shouldn't enter halftime with an edge in rushing attempts, unless they simply control the ball like last week at Denver, 75 plays to 40. Seldom happens like that two weeks in a row.

Use tempo to run the ball, especially after a successful play. Nothing wears on a defensive front more than being forced to line up quickly and then getting smacked via drive blocking.
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It's a bit difficult to get 'cute' with the play call when the interior line is getting destroyed from the snap.

Kyle Williams ate Shelly lunch on Sunday.

Losing Moreno killed the strategy and really limited what we called. Either because of lack of condifence in Miller or lack of ability by Miller.

Run game was a disaster and you could tell the O was flat from the get go.
 
There's not much he can do with a struggling quarterback. He's not the one out there missing receivers left and right.
 
I have been impressed w/ Lazor. Its bEnton though that deserves some serious kudos for what he's done.

As for the offense overall, if Bruce Arians said Eli M needs 1/2 a season then so does Ryan.

I think the offense will really click when 1) Clay and Pouncey are 100%, 2) Landry has a few more games experience under his belt.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Not as many wrinkles as I expected. For example, if you use wide receiver screens often, there's a cheap offshoot. With two receivers on that side, the one who generally blocks fakes the block and takes off downfield. That often catches the cornerback completely flatfooted. The quarterback fakes to the receiver who peeled back and then targets the guy racing down the sideline. I lost a first half bet in a college game last week when the opponent successfully executed that play in the final minute of the second quarter.

If we use standard screen plays or wide receiver screens, they should be on second down, specifically second and short or second and medium. Those plays have a chance to break open but more often than not you'll settle for a short gain or short loss. That doesn't kill you on second and short. Too often we run those plays on first down, or on third and long like early last week. That's simply a mistake because it ruins your expectation.

More downfield aggressive plays. I suspect Lazor is beginning to figure that out. Don't play scared and rely on yards after catch. I think we should throw deep more than once or twice per game. The openings are there. Makes no sense we can't connect on a competent percentage.

Run the ball early in the game. Get to 15+ rushes at halftime and it's remarkable how the bottom line cooperates. This game is interesting in that regard because Kansas City has a troubled offensive and defensive line and obviously Charles is hurt. No reason we shouldn't enter halftime with an edge in rushing attempts, unless they simply control the ball like last week at Denver, 75 plays to 40. Seldom happens like that two weeks in a row.

Use tempo to run the ball, especially after a successful play. Nothing wears on a defensive front more than being forced to line up quickly and then getting smacked via drive blocking.
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Nice post, and I agree to a point on the screens on early downs, but I think you might be missing one point. Often times play calls on certain down and distance is predicated on the other team's tendencies. Example, if the bills run blitz often on certain part of the field on 1st and 10 because they think we run on 1st and 10, then calling a screen against that blitz might be a very successful play call if executed properly. Running a screen on 1st down might be a great idea vs one team and a terrible idea vs another depending on their tendencies and their personnel's ability to diagnose screens.
 
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