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can someone explain to me why our oline has had so much trouble in recent years. we have been trying to upgrade that position for years (our head coach is a freaking oline coach). why has it been so difficult to surround this group with decent talent. i am not an oline guru (its the position i pay the least attention too).
 
Murtha is a solid backup. Jake Longs presence in that line can't be over stated. Without him, teams play us completely differently.

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Colombo is the worst RT I have ever seen. EVER. Last week he didn't touch a soul on one pass play. Didn't lay a finger on a defensive player on a pass play. How bad and imobile do you have to be to not be able to touch a defender in pass protection. Then towards the end of the play it looked like he was going to fall down for no apparant reason.

I'd sign O'Hara, put him at C, move Pouncy to LG, move Incognito to RG, and either Garner/Carey or somebody who got cut to RT. MAN we suck on the right side.
 
Carey had a miserable night. I counted several plays where his man blew up the play. As a unit they were outplayed, looked as if they were playing together for the first time. I know the OL needs to gel to become a solid unit but after last night I'm sure sparano was a bit more nervous. I know I am.
 
i feel like everyone is just tossing colombo under the bus b/c they never liked the pick up in the first place - i saw much more with carey and even murtha than colombo that were issues. i think o'hara shold be brought in and either put carey back at RT or have him be a versatile back up. either way we need a RG.
 
Once we get Long back and Murtha NEVER plays LT again, we will be fine!
 
... This was EXACTLY what our team needed after Carloina. It gave our O-Line a dose of reality. They probably came in over-confident after dominating the Panthers defense while New England embarassed the Bucs D-Line was embarassed. So they were completely jacked up against us.

The Long and the short of if it is (yes, I see the pun) that our O-Line brought their B game and the Buc's D-Line brought their A game.
 
Pouncey got to experience what he will see from week to week, LARGE DTs on his mask. On that one short yardage run at the one yard line Pouncey was literally picked up in the air and tossed back 2 yards and his man came in unimpeded to stop Bush for a 3 yard loss. Does not matter if Tony thinks he is gaining exp and knowledge from being between Incognito and Carey. What they did to Pouncey at the goal line has nothing to do with knowledge, it has all to do with leverage and strength.

Anyone that recorded the game, watch that play. Tells a big tale about our center. Center needs to control the point of attack, pouncey simply cannot do that, no leverage, no strength. Yeah the kid is young and energetic, that goes with a rookie. I have read Pouncey was at the second level, Pouncey was solid, Pouncey sets the tone. Complete utter bullsh*&t. Decent player, yes, control the point of attack ? No friggin way man. Kid is getting tossed like a cheap chef salad all game long. Big deal he gets up and runs around like a cheerleader, big deal. As I said, he cannot move the people that need to be moved. At least stop them, he cannot, he is pushed into the backfield play after play by the larger people he is going to face week after week. Not good. When you are weak at center the rest of the Oline falls apart.

Tampa picked up on that after the first series and took advantage of it all the while our starters were in. Heck, Pouncey was being tossed by Tampas backups. He was not a bad pick but he certainly is not an NFL starting center, no way. Heck, he wasn't Division I starting center either.
 
UHHS said:
Pouncey got to experience what he will see from week to week, LARGE DTs on his mask. On that one short yardage run at the one yard line Pouncey was literally picked up in the air and tossed back 2 yards and his man came in unimpeded to stop Bush for a 3 yard loss. Does not matter if Tony thinks he is gaining exp and knowledge from being between Incognito and Carey. What they did to Pouncey at the goal line has nothing to do with knowledge, it has all to do with leverage and strength.

Anyone that recorded the game, watch that play. Tells a big tale about our center. Center needs to control the point of attack, pouncey simply cannot do that, no leverage, no strength. Yeah the kid is young and energetic, that goes with a rookie. I have read Pouncey was at the second level, Pouncey was solid, Pouncey sets the tone. Complete utter bullsh*&t. Decent player, yes, control the point of attack ? No friggin way man. Kid is getting tossed like a cheap chef salad all game long. Big deal he gets up and runs around like a cheerleader, big deal. As I said, he cannot move the people that need to be moved. At least stop them, he cannot, he is pushed into the backfield play after play by the larger people he is going to face week after week. Not good. When you are weak at center the rest of the Oline falls apart.

Tampa picked up on that after the first series and took advantage of it all the while our starters were in. Heck, Pouncey was being tossed by Tampas backups. He was not a bad pick but he certainly is not an NFL starting center, no way. Heck, he wasn't Division I starting center either.
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Talk about a major overreaction.
 
Penthos said:
... This was EXACTLY what our team needed after Carloina. It gave our O-Line a dose of reality. They probably came in over-confident after dominating the Panthers defense while New England embarassed the Bucs D-Line was embarassed. So they were completely jacked up against us.

The Long and the short of if it is (yes, I see the pun) that our O-Line brought their B game and the Buc's D-Line brought their A game.
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I was at the game and I sensed that to. What was disappointing was the lack of anger and determination the OL showed after that became apparent and they were manhandled. They did not seem very competative. I also think that Carey not Colombo will grade out the worst once the coaches review the tape. As for jelling, I don't think it is a legitimate excuse. On short yardage, it should be fire out and dominate your target. When your TE, RT, RG, and C all get pushed back two yards on a power play it ain't the jellin'.
 
Wilfork and Haynesworth

we couldn't stop one of them

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Fluffy Sparano quoted in the Herald ... "We’re going to stay the course, and we’re going to be fine,” Sparano said. “Everything that happened [Saturday] is fixable."

Must be Fluffy's 5-year plan, cause this has been going on for years. Probably the same 'fix it' plan he's using for Special Teams.
 
jared81 said:
can someone explain to me why our oline has had so much trouble in recent years. we have been trying to upgrade that position for years (our head coach is a freaking oline coach). why has it been so difficult to surround this group with decent talent. i am not an oline guru (its the position i pay the least attention too).
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As the lines go, the teams go ... you're missing the game of football. (That's why O & D Linemen get top NFL salaries.)

Problem: Lack of talent ... no more, no less. Been going on 3+ years.

That Ireland didn't get us a QB frustrated me, but his options were limited & pricey. But what flabergastted me was NOTHING for the O-Line in Free Agency with alot of players available ... down right negligent. Colombo's was average in his prime, sliding down hill fast.

Three years has shown Sparano doesn't really fix anything, same problem with O-Line, Specials Teams, etc. (no real solutions other than talk).
This is Irelands first year in charge ... and I feel he's let the team down ... not addressing glaring holes.

Don't like a FO turnstyle ... this hurts the team too ... but the problems & lack of solutions doesn't bode well.
 
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