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PB Post: Hargreaves May be Best Bet if Dolphins Pick CB in 1st Round

Sorry, I forgot that this isn't a message board, for discussion of the topic on a thread. And for evaluation of the draftniks' fatal disregard of the prevailing realities in the league, in favor of evaluating college players in the vacuum of college performance against often-inferior college competition, without regard to the NFL's physical reality.

Oh, wait...it is!
 
NaboCane said:
Sorry, I forgot that this isn't a message board, for discussion of the topic on a thread. And for evaluation of the draftniks' fatal disregard of the prevailing realities in the league, in favor of evaluating college players in the vacuum of college performance against often-inferior college competition, without regard to the NFL's physical reality.

Oh, wait...it is!
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It's a Dolphin's forum, this belongs in general NFL.
 
for discussions sake, VH3 did not end his season well at Florida going up against bigger WRs. Some say he was saving himself for the draft, but there were some tendencies that started to appear that were reason for caution.
 
ChambersWI said:
long term I think VH3 will be fine, but I do not think he has been what the Bucs had hoped early.
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Next season will be a better gauge of VH's long-term fit. But this season, he has 2 PDs and no INTs. He does have 27 tackles, so apparently he either is good in run support or tackling receivers after the catch.
 
NaboCane said:
Sorry, I forgot that this isn't a message board, for discussion of the topic on a thread. And for evaluation of the draftniks' fatal disregard of the prevailing realities in the league, in favor of evaluating college players in the vacuum of college performance against often-inferior college competition, without regard to the NFL's physical reality.

Oh, wait...it is!
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No need to be sorry, but this is the main board. Not the draft forum so a 6 month bump for a player not on the phins roster is over doing it.
 
Avigatorx said:
It's a Dolphin's forum, this belongs in general NFL.
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I searched for a Hargreaves thread. This was the most pertinent. I didn't start the thread in the Dolphins forum.

But I do think it's a fair discussion of a player a lot of people wanted on this team.

That said, I wouldn't be the least bit opposed to moving it to G-NFL.
 
The point I wanted to make, since this article was based mostly around Mel Kiper's opinion, was that guys like Kiper are dinosaurs, and we really should not be giving them the status they once earned by being excellent talent evaluators in perpetuity, unless they (he in particular) change their methods of evaluation.

I believe this also true of most of the personnel men in the NFL, which is why you see so many busts in the 1st round, where players have been micro-scrutinized, but using decades-old criteria and mentalities.
 
NaboCane said:
The point I wanted to make, since this article was based mostly around Mel Kiper's opinion, was that guys like Kiper are dinosaurs, and we really should not be giving them the status they once earned by being excellent talent evaluators in perpetuity, unless they (he in particular) change their methods of evaluation.

I believe this also true of most of the personnel men in the NFL, which is why you see so many busts in the 1st round, where players have been micro-scrutinized, but using decades-old criteria and mentalities.
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Hard to gauge a short CB 7 games into his rookie season
 
NaboCane said:
The point I wanted to make, since this article was based mostly around Mel Kiper's opinion, was that guys like Kiper are dinosaurs, and we really should not be giving them the status they once earned by being excellent talent evaluators in perpetuity, unless they (he in particular) change their methods of evaluation. I believe this also true of most of the personnel men in the NFL, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE SO MANY BUSTS IN THE FIRST ROUND, where players have been micro-scrutinized, but using decades-old criteria and mentalities.
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IMO, the reason for so many busts is probability. No 1R pick is the result of one person's evaluation, but an organization's evaluation, and anything involving humans is going to be messy. I fault *NO* GM for a miss on an evaluation. What I fault is picking too high, picking a position of no need, and paying too much to move up (I'm opposed to trading up).
 
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