Per Jackson- Marino interested in working for Dolphins and Steelers

[PHINSfan]

Ross doesn't seem particularly interested in giving Dan any power or say. He wants him... as a hood ornament, basically. This talk about Pittsburgh seems designed to force Ross' hand, imo. I mean, don't get me wrong. Dan grew up in Pittsburgh, still roots for the Steelers (in general), as well as the Pirates and Penguins. So it's not like he wouldn't want to work for Pittsburgh. But at the same time the Steelers are a family affair and always have been. If neither Terry Bradshaw nor Franco Harris nor Joe Greene nor Lynn Swann have found their way into the Steelers front office... why would Dan Marino?

I'd like to see Marino come into the Dolphins organization and be given real power. I'd be in favor of that. I mean, I think most posters here are aware that I think the current regime is about 85% bozo, so what could it hurt? Unlike the situation a decade ago, I think Dan truly wants the responsibility and is willing to do the work (unlike the bitch work Rick Spielman had him doing all those years ago).

To me, this change in Marino's mindset is more than anything down to his close friend John Elway getting into Dan's ear about how close the front office experience is to the field. Don't forget, these guys tread that line between friendship and competitor in a way that's pretty unique. They didn't play against each other that often, but don't forget that. Dan has seen how invigorated Elway is by his experience, how much it turns on his competitive juices and gives him that crazy mainline football experience... and I think Dan is hooked again. He'd probably convinced himself that since his playing days were over that he'd have to move on from his competitive life completely, that nothing he'd ever find in his life could ever compare to the inferno of crunch time.

But here it is. Elway is experiencing it. And Dan wants it. Badly. The problem is... Ross looks at the Dolphins like it's his toy train set and he doesn't want anyone else to play. So I don't see it happening.

Valid points...but don't forget that not long ago Ross gave Dan a good position with the team, and Dan turned it down at the last minute....

 

[Valandui]

Valid points...but don't forget that not long ago Ross gave Dan a good position with the team, and Dan turned it down at the last minute....

When did that happen? Ross wasn't here when Wanny was.

 

[GoonBoss]

Doesn't matter how long he was in PA....and by the way...He has now lived in South Florida much longer.

His heart is with the team he represented for 17 years....childhood fanhood pales next to that bond.

And he quit his FO job with the Dolphins once. He quit once, he'll do it again. He doesnt' want to put in work to learn a trade.
He just wants instant power he's unqualified to handle.

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So the hell what,Ive quit **** before to at places that treted me badly or showed they didnt care ! You act like quitting is always the fault of the individual that quits or something,and its not ! How do you know everything that happenned that caused it ? You dont,and neither do I,and neither does probably anyone on here know all the details for that matter !

I hate somebody that tries to judge or put everything all in the same dam box,especially with no idea probably of the entire situation ! Dan never quit on the field,and I dont think he would have quit the job either if there were not some things that probably were'nt right ! Again though,I can give the man a benefit of the doubt and a 2nd chance,if you cant,thats you,but for what he could bring to the team I am willing to take a look and see,as I said,Ireland and the rest hadnt done a dam thing in the last 10 years,I would say theres no way in hell Dan would have done ANY WORSE either !

And who said anything about dam magical powers,you been watching Harry Potter or something ? The position he plays has NEVER neen brought into it anywhere I have read ! And again,maybe he knew the role they wanted him to play,he was'nt going to be able to prove it in that capacity,so instead of just being a figurehead and taking a teams money for that,he said no,I can actually appreciate that more than someone just wanting to take money to be a figurehead !

Again though,all speculation,I dont know,I admit I dont know everything that happenned,but seems like maybe you do from your judgements,so tell me all the details behind him leaving before ? Or again,is he just "in the box" he quit,its his faault no matter what !!! I guess your saying the team and owned can do no wrong in that case !

Did you believe in the organizations you quit?

Did you come back looking for a job after you quit?

 

[electrolyte]

Marino is not a front office mind. He's more jock, than coach. He won't make the transition well. I don't even believe he can do a good job. He'd sit in the office and get bored in 10 minutes and complain.

 

[UPFinFan]

Maybe if we had Dan a couple years ago, we could have signed Peyton haha.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Just how bad would Marino have to be than to be worse than the last 5 to 10 years? Seriously.

Ding ding ding.

 

[ChambersWI]

Well the other issue was last time he didn't want to put in the hours to be a GM... and he also didn't like being in a figurehead role when Wanny/Spielman didn't listen to him.

 

[Roman529]

Yikes, it would look bad for all parties if he goes to the Steelers.

That's where Dan is from. I wouldn't hold it against him if he went back home. The Rooneys run a class organization, and it was their loss they didn't draft him.

 

[Vaark]

Great field football IQ doesn't necessarily translate into great "Front Office IQ." Elway should not be used as a benchmark. Unlike John who is a Stanford grad, and coached by his own accomplished father, Marino's stand-alone elite QB build up of "capital" can only take him so far. And so far, (and most fittingly) it's been largely into the CBS broadcast booth.

Would I want to entrust an organization to his untested decision-making? Hell no. At least not until he paid his dues and proved himself working his way up the ladder, all the while inputting decisions as a team member and being the face of the franchise. If that's not what he has in mind, then as much as I love #13, I'll pass thank you.

Aside from that, I'm still not convinced that he won't be inclined to bolt or treat whatever responsibilities the club gives him as a part-timer, if and when he gets another mass media offer. It's been my experience, as I've been in the industry for many years, that when someone loses the position they had no intent of relinquishing until blindsided, sure they'll reach out for anything that's a port in a storm - the sturdier the port the better... and from an ego compensation standpoint, the loftier the job the better. But "reacting from being thrown an unexpected curve ball" is by no means as constructive as "going to" an exciting and fulfilling job on one's own initiative and dovetailing objectives; and that distinction invariably most often gets manifested by performance after the novelty wears off.

IMO, between the circumstances of him wanting a job, his own inexperience and unproven aptitude and the likely impactful scope of the position he's after, the odds are that in the long run it won't end well :idk:

 

[Goonies]

Hey, if Dan wants to go to Pittsburgh...let him go and good riddance. Can't believe the Hall of Famer would ever put it out there that he would work for the ****in Steelers. Who knows, maybe he has some children running around there. Are you ****in kidding me Dan? ****. Go work the the Steelers...might be the best thing you can do for our franchise at this point.

You obviously do not know that Marino is from Pitt. He Grew up a steeler fan, played college ball at Pitt. You are an ignorant poster.

 

[number1fin]

Speaking of Dan Marino, he recently paid a visit to Jim Kelly who is continuing his fight with cancer.

Jill Kelly (Jim's wife) posted an image of the visit on instagram.

Kelly wrote, "On the field. Off the field. Brothers. Memories and stories. Laughter and tears. Thank you #13. You're the only Dolphin we love! #prayersjk #NFL #DanMarino."

 

[Goonies]

That's where Dan is from. I wouldn't hold it against him if he went back home. The Rooneys run a class organization, and it was their loss they didn't draft him.

I agree with you completely. Btw zach martin at 19 wouldn't be my first choice. Maybe I should see more tape on the kid to see what you guys are seeing.

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Speaking of Dan Marino, he recently paid a visit to Jim Kelly who is continuing his fight with cancer.

Jill Kelly (Jim's wife) posted an image of the visit on instagram.

Kelly wrote, "On the field. Off the field. Brothers. Memories and stories. Laughter and tears. Thank you #13. You're the only Dolphin we love! #prayersjk #NFL #DanMarino."

That's awesome to see. I hope Jim kelly gets better soon. 2 great qbs right there.

 

[dolphindebby]

I would love to see Dan with the Dolphins, but if he made any mistakes at all, the fans and press would take him down.
And with the front office and the turmoil their in I don't want to see him in any situation he couldn't help/or get out of.
I stand by him so matter where he goes or what ever job he takes.
I think he's smart enough to do anything with football.
And I wish him the best of luck.

 

[dolphindan1970]

And he quit his FO job with the Dolphins once. He quit once, he'll do it again. He doesnt' want to put in work to learn a trade.
He just wants instant power he's unqualified to handle.

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Did you believe in the organizations you quit?

Did you come back looking for a job after you quit?

And you know he'll quit again how ? Corporation I worked for I didnt know well,just a smart ass supervisor on a construction site thought he was a bad ass and could talk to anyone anyway and cuss them,he found out real dam different real dam fast when 3 guys were jerking me off beating his ass ! And I won the case I filed against them as well,making him out to be the ass he was !
And yes,in the future with a different supervisor who actually treated a person as such,I may have worked for them,the other guy was fired after that incident and I had moved out of state.

But again,dufferent situation,my point is that you,or NO-One else here should try to judge someone without lmowing everything behind what went down ! Tell me you do,know everything,explain it,and I might consider your point. So far all I have heard are assumptions.

You assume he wants a certain type job. You assume he isnt qualified for that certain type job. You assume everyone just wants to give him the job because he was a QB. You assume he will quit that certain type job,because he did in the past. Personally if anything,I would assume if it is the same type job as before,and he knew it was what they were offering beforehand,HE WOULDNT even take it again to start with.

Everyone should chill and see what he is interested in doing to begin with. Maybe he would be willing to start low and learn,but again,everyone assumes he wants the biggest job there is to start with,and Ive not heard that anywhere. It just seems like to me to many people willing to condem him from what happenned in the past,without real knowledge of what did really happen,and what they think is going to happen again.

I had heard in the past Dan thought his role was going to be different than what it was,and that there was a misunderstanding from the beginning what his role would be,then when he realized it,he left knowing it wasnt what he wanted and understood it to be. But again,I admit,I dont know that to be fact.

To me though,to much judgement,not enough facts,and seems like some just want to condemn him because he was a superstar,and dont want to see him get special treatment. I am not asking for such,I am saying see what he thinks he can do that will help the organization grow,use those skills if he's willing to learn and grow and see what happens. But also give him a legit shot,dont just make him a dam figurehead if he really wants to learn the business and thinks he can. If he's proving it then make it where he understands he can grow and move up quickly in a couple, few years,if not,both sides part ways then.

 

[Daytona Fin]

Maybe if we had Dan a couple years ago, we could have signed Peyton haha.

If I remember correctly, I believe Dan did try to coerce Peyton to the Dolphins.