Personnel decisions that will hurt us this year

[MiamiDolfan85]

Im just tired of mediocority.....I just wanna watch my favorite team without doubting them at the same time.


Its not healthy,and its not the way it should be.

 

[Pinkboy]

Personnel decisions that will hurt the Phins most this year on defense

Not getting Antawn Barnes who was available cheap as a situational pass rusher. The guy had 1 sack, 3 QB hits and multiple QB pressures last sunday. Meanwhile, we settled for a done JT who's pass rushing days are long gone. Taylor is just a "body" out there these days, and a very old one at that. If Wake has a mediocre game or gets injured this defense has no pass rush and Barnes would have been nice ( I was complaining and starting threads on the need for another pass rusher during the last 8 months while many here were content with this defense going forward).

Not getting a good coverage safety and better corner depth. This will haunt them this year. This defense will regress this year and I knew it would happen if they didn't really improve in key areas.

Relying on Cam Wake to have a similar year to last year's breakout season was a big mistake. many players regress after a breakout season. Moreover, teams learn and study a player more after a breakout year.. and of course double him more ( Wake didn't do much in the final 4 games last year when teams gave him more attention as an example). And Misi is total garbage as a pass rusher as he has zero speed off the edge and no ability to turn the arc fast with his hips low. Misi only has 1 sack in his last 12 games after teams studied him more and realized all he has is a bull rush move and it's easy to stick block him.

Should have drafted Rob Gronkowski 2 spots later instead of misi as I said on the draft forum on that draft day 2 drafts ago. misi is just a dime-a-dozen player that you can easily find in rounds 5 and 6, or a very cheap UFA

 

[SkapePhin]

The difference is running the football in that situation is a higher percentage play than throwing a fade to your #2 or #3 receiver.

The old saying "if you can't get it in from half a yard you don't deserve to get in anyway" holds true. If the other team gets lower and stops you, then you didn't deserve to get the touchdown. You got out-executed. But at least you played the percentages correctly.

If you want to pass in that situation, at least roll out where the QB has options... not an extremely low percentage fade attempt on 4th down.

The Saints couldn't block the Packers... they didn't deserve to get in...

I didn't like the playcall either, but all the second guessing doesn't do anything. Its also frustrating how that would be second-guessed no matter what. If they ran reggie in that spot, and failed, people would be griping about the call too because they would say "What are coaches thinking running him in the middle, everyone knew that play, it would be obvious! Haynesworth and Wilfork would obviously swallow him whole!"

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

Personnel decisions that will hurt the Phins most this year on defense

Not getting Antawn Barnes who was available cheap as a situational pass rusher. The guy had 1 sack, 3 QB hits and multiple QB pressures last sunday. Meanwhile, we settled for a done JT who's poass rushing days are long gone. If Wake has a mnediocfre game this defense has no pass rush and Barnes would have been nice ( I was complaining and starting threads on the need for another pass rusher for the last 8 months while many here were content with this defense going forward).

Not getting a good coverage safety and better corner depth. This will haunt them this year.

Relkying on Cam Wake to have a similar year to last year's breakout season was a big mistake. many players regress after a breakout season. Moreover, teams learn and study a player more after a breakout year.. and of course double him more ( Wake didn't do much in the final 4 games last year when teams gave him more attention as an example). And Misi is total garbage as a pass rusher as he has zero speed off the edge and no ability to turn the arc fast with his hips low

Exactly.... especially about Jason Taylor. I just had the discussion with hoops less than 2 weeks ago in the Koa Misi thread about Taylor.

I have no idea why these guys decided to bring Taylor back... AGAIN. I wouldn't have done it. Hell, I wouldn't have done after the last 3 times we've gotten rid of him.

A guy like Barnes just made a lot more sense. It's not even debateable. It's common sense.

 

[Kowalski550]

Bringing back Jason Taylor

A Dolphins legend and a total liability when he's on the field. 0 coverage skills and teams prefer to run to his side since he's consistently doing the wide outside rush move. His time is up.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

I didn't like the playcall either, but all the second guessing doesn't do anything. Its also frustrating how that would be second-guessed no matter what. If they ran reggie in that spot, and failed, people would be griping about the call too because they would say "What are coaches thinking running him in the middle, everyone knew that play, it would be obvious! Haynesworth and Wilfork would obviously swallow him whole!"

The fade to Hartline in that situation isn't just a bad playcall, it's completely off the charts stupid regardless of the outcome. Even Daboll knows this. It's not a bad playcall in hindsight either... even if Miami had scored on the play, it's STILL an off the charts stupid playcall in that situation regardless of the result... because it's such a low percentage play.

You don't run Reggie up the middle in that situation, and I don't think anyone suggested it. You run Hilliard right there and I think he gets in at least 5 out of 10 times... that's 50%. Much better than the 10% chance you have of hitting Hartline on that fade.

If you want to run Reggie there, you do it to the outside on a sweep or toss play... even that's a higher percentage play than a fade to Hartline.

Regardless of results, those are playcalls that make sense in that situation.

 

[hoops]

jason taylor was washed up before he left the last time...like something was gonna change with us now...the jets schemed ways to get him clean looks to the qb or played coverage long enough for taylor to get there...he's washed the **** up

and i'm dangerously close to labeling koa misi a jag...just another guy...his impact is minimal at best right now...

 

[beanh8er]

Exactly.... especially about Jason Taylor. I just had the discussion with hoops less than 2 weeks ago in the Koa Misi thread about Taylor.

I have no idea why these guys decided to bring Taylor back... AGAIN. I wouldn't have done it. Hell, I wouldn't have done after the last 3 times we've gotten rid of him.

A guy like Barnes just made a lot more sense. It's not even debateable. It's common sense.

Even Manny Lawson at this point. When a washed up Jason Taylor is starting over someone else; you need a ****ing upgrade. Brandon Marshall on one side and Roberto on the other in that goal line situation would've been money. Marshall draws the double and Roberto uses his 6'5 frame with a 37' vert to get that ball. Double ****. I just looked at Brian Hartline's combine measurables. 6'2 with a 35' vert. There's a 5 inch difference between the two not including arm length where Roberto definitely has the advantage.

 

[hoops]

taylor will get hurt soon anyways...i can see it already...matter of time there...and then we'll get to see jason trusnick set the art of pass rushing back 20 years...

we are ****ed on the opposite side of wake at olb as far as pass rush is concerned...****ed

 

[beanh8er]

taylor will get hurt soon anyways...i can see it already...matter of time there...and then we'll get to see jason trusnick set the art of pass rushing back 20 years...

we are ****ed on the opposite side of wake at olb as far as pass rush is concerned...****ed

No worries man, at least we still got Austin Spitler at ILB. He's good enough to make up for every deficiency along the linebacking corps.

 

[DublinMickeyO]

Personnel decisions that will hurt the Phins most this year: drafting Pouncey to play center in the first round, and signing Colombo to play right tackle. Tackle was a deep position in the draft. If the front office wanted to focus on the line in Round 1, they should have taken a highly-rated tackle, and then signed one of the many solid free agent guards that were going to be on the market.

Nate Solder did look better than Pouncey. I think passing on Mark Ingram was a mistake too. And passing on Mallett for Daniel Thomas in late round 2?!?! R u kidding me?!?!

Even if Henne turns into a legit starter, it's ALWAYS smart to draft QBs b/c they always have nice trade value. Belichick gets that. Dumbo Ireland doesn't.

And add Misi, Jerry and Edds to the long list of early round busts for Ireland.

Keeping Jeff Ireland was our worst personnel decision.

 

[hoops]

and so what happens when wake gets nullified and you can't get any pressure from the trash you keep sending on the other side...you have to start blitzing to get pressure and exposing your depth corners and safeties...and good qbs torch your ***

over and over again

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

Even Manny Lawson at this point. When a washed up Jason Taylor is starting over someone else; you need a ****ing upgrade. Brandon Marshall on one side and Roberto on the other in that goal line situation would've been money. Marshall draws the double and Roberto uses his 6'5 frame with a 37' vert to get that ball. Double ****. I just looked at Brian Hartline's combine measurables. 6'2 with a 35' vert. There's a 5 inch difference between the two not including arm length where Roberto definitely has the advantage.

I'm not calling a fade on 4th down and inches no matter what. I don't care if I have Brandon Marshall, Roberto Wallace, Plaxico Burress, or anybody else. I don't like the playcall.

There's literally an entire page of plays that are higher percentage and make more sense in that situation.

Even still, Henne gave Hartline no chance to make a play on the football with the throw. If you're going to call that low percentage of a play, at least throw it up for grabs where Hartline has a chance to make a play on the football. Henne threw it where it wouldn't get intercepted if Hartline couldn't get it..

That's fine on 1st down... 2nd down... even 3rd down... but not on 4th down.

 

[hoops]

I'm not calling a fade on 4th down and inches no matter what. I don't care if I have Brandon Marshall, Roberto Wallace, Plaxico Burress, or anybody else. I don't like the playcall.

There's literally an entire page of plays that are higher percentage and make more sense in that situation.

Even still, Henne gave Hartline no chance to make a play on the football with the throw. If you're going to call that low percentage of a play, at least throw it up for grabs where Hartline has a chance to make a play on the football. Henne threw it where it wouldn't get intercepted if Hartline couldn't get it..

That's fine on 1st down... 2nd down... even 3rd down... but not on 4th down.

i agree...no fade on 4th down...but no fade in the tight red zone period with hartline...your wasting a down

funny thing is if i recall correctly during the review that would make it 4th down henne and daboll and sparano were on the sideline discussing the play call and thats what they came up with...henne should have looked at daboll when he called that and told him to **** off marino style...

 

[bcfinfan]

Every friggin year we talk about sporanos questionable personnel decisions. Lets face it Sporano and his regime have no clue when it comes to judging talent. Their drafting is pathetic and their f.a. pick ups and cuts make no sense most of the time.
The number of players they keep at some positions is way too many and other positions not enough...huh!!
Add to that a coach who is the worst, by far, game day manager, is a perfect set up for failure and will continue to be until we get a coaching staff and gm that know what they're doing.
Its a shame, we've got all these great football minds of the past hanging around, Shula, Griese, Marino, etc. who I think would be eager to lend their expertise and have ideas bounced off them but I doubt very much this regime takes advantage of that or ever would.