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Pete Prisco: 7-9 for Dolphins

Am I the only one who thinks the Dolphins will go undefeated every year?:confused:
 
ya just like last year when the eagles won it all in the off season.
jets will b last place this year not buffalo or miami ill bet the farm
 
I mean, that was our record last year, 6-10, after going 0-7. So we haven't made ANY improvements that would lead to even one more win? That's ridiculous. The defense has gotten better and the offense added some pieces.

Tannehill probably won't play, so not bringing him up, but they added Jonathan Martin to the O-line, Olivier Vernon to the D-line, Egnew at TE, Lamar Miller (holy shiat)... those were all key needs we had and I think they had a nice draft. I also think Chad Johnson isn't done and seems refocused and will contribute, not saying 20 TDs worth, but he'll make a difference out there. We also have, what I think, is a good crop of young rookie receivers, never know if someone steps up from that group, too.

In all, I'm not dumb enough to think we're contending for a deep playoff run, but I don't think its THAT BAD a team right now. QB position will, of course, be the deciding factor this year. It will be interesting.
 
I hope nyjunc like fieldgoals cuz you'll be seeing a butt load of the this year. You keep talking about the D ( which is going to be pretty good) but our offense is going to terrible. Prepare for terrible play calling, 2 yards and a cloud of dust and super conseveritive playcalls. oh and alot of fist pumps. Every fan thinks and wants his team to do good but the fact is the jets are no better then a 7-9 or 8-8 team. The only way they are better then that is if they win alot of low scoring close games like 14-10 or 9-6 type games. I think buff is better then you guys and us to be honest. just hope you come back on mid season when you guys r 3-4 and eat some crow.
 
Vaark said:
Yeah "woulda" is an interesting expression. Like if the Colts "woulda" kept those same starters who outscored the jest 45-27 even with 2 of their best 3 defenders either out or hobbled including 24-zip in the last 31 mins, then you'd have nothing other than 1season out of the last 3 to yap about. You should be kissing Polian's and Caldwell's feet for the poetic license you take when it comes to total wins and playoffs. ( I did not say "legitimate")

But enough of troll feeding and allowing you to derail a topic that had nothing to do with you for the 5000th time.
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"woulda" is all you ever have w/ your weak arguments.

Crazy685 said:
I didn't realize the NFL gave out 4th place medals. You do mental gymnastics to move the goal posts of an argument just so you always win, and frankly it's very tiring. You lack logic in almost every single thought you spew out, you simply exist to give the Jets every benefit of the doubt as well as receive a double standard in the face of others.

Just to review what i've learned from you before -

- The Jets being in 4th-6th place in the NFL, twice in the past 5 years, is almost as impressive as the Giants winning the superbowl twice in 5 years
- The Dolphins being below the Jets is a vast ocean and the Jets are simply biding their time.

Here are some simple, cold hard facts from a non biased party (I simply can't help but be logical with my review of football, it's in my nature). New York has required the services of two VERY unlikely situations to get to the AFC Championship game. Two. They've used up their luck. And for what? So you can pretend like it means a goddamn thing.

You're not the Patriots. The Patriots, year in and year out, are favorites and simply dominate. They almost make the superbowl almost every time and when they don't, it's considered an upset. The Jets, however, are on their way to nothing. They've realized that with their current starting QB, they simply need an amazing defense, a super strong running game, and a whole lot of bounces, including some of the worst game day decisions by a head coach (Caldwell) ever seen to reach the fight for 3rd place. Fantastic.

You seem to think the Jets are just ONE year away... that the pieces are there, but it hasn't come together. Let me spoil it for you. It isn't. And it won't. You have a head coach who, yes, is a fantastic game day coach and simply out coached the Patriots in 2009. But you've got a head coach who can't keep his locker room under control, you've got a quarterback who simply has 10% of the locker room believing in him. You've got a star WR who simply hates being there and makes it known, you've got a backup QB who is a celebrity superstar and placing pressure on your starting QB, pressure that he has shown he is unable to deal with.

You've got aging linebackers, some questionable draft picks, and an all pro superstar at CB. You've got question marks at safety, you've got a tremendous O Line with a ****ty running back who really struggles to break 4.2 yard per carry behind that awesome line. You've got an offensive coordinator who repeatedly proved to be extra conservative and stuck in a state of mind that plays an era of football that is simply non-existent anymore.

Miami has a ton of question marks but a lot of moves that, some on their face, appear negative. They've got a quarterback battle between two stop gaps, they've got a star runningback who is likely to revert back to his injury riddled ways, they've got a star receiver who now plays in Chicago because he simply couldn't stop being an ******* to teammates, and they've got draft picks that are the true definition of boom or bust. They've got an owner who has made an ass of himself on multiple occasions, and they've got a 1st time head coach.

Will they be as good as the Jets are? Who knows. They may. Do they have the potential to be much worse? Yup, they sure do. Is the potential there to be better? You better believe it.

So you tell me, Mr Argue absolutely everything then blindly pretend like you don't contradict yourself in almost every other post, what is better? To currently max out at "just not good enough"? Or to have the ability to shoot for the stars with the possibility to land in the mud?

You mockingly say "almost exactly the same" but you know what? I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to sit there and find ways to make coming in 4th place through multiple lucky bounces sound like it is something to be jealous off year after year, knowing my team won't make it. I'd rather deal with people like you making fun of a team that goes 6-10 one season and completely cleans house, and switches philosophies, using the gameplan of a man who has tasted superbowl victory before. I'd rather have that. SO NO, Miami and New York ARE NOT the same... Miami's future has the potential to be so much brighter.
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I love how dolphin fans that haven't seen a playoff win since Dec of 2000 can criticize the Jets for winning 4 over the last 3 seasons.


Obviously you struggle w/ reading comprehension as nowhere did I say the Jets had simialr success to the Giants over the past 5 seasons.


what were the 2 "very unlikely" situations?(otherwise known as excuses from opposing fans). B/c we got a qtr and a half of Indy backups? you had 5-6 dead teams and no Tom Brady to end 2008 but that wasn't a "very unlikely" situation to get to the playoffs?(and get humiliated at home in the WC rd).

We're not the Pats but we aren't the dolphins either and we have advanced further than the Pats 2 of the last 3 years while not falling below Miami.

B/c we ended poorly in 2011 that means rex can't keep his LR under control? You know who had supposed LR problems going into 2011 and had a coahc on the verge of being fired? the Giants. In 2010 thye had players PUBLICLY syaing they'd rather play for rex, in '11 they had contract issues in the LR. You know how you overcome that stuff? WINNING, our supposed LR issues happened b/c the team wasn't winning.

Sanchez has the support of his teammates, when the unnamed source came out tons of key guys stepped up for him.

We have aging players everywhere unless you know something I don't, miraculously every second of the day our players age. It's true.

By the way, 2 of your 3 starting LBs will be 30 or over this coming season. Dansby is the same age as Bart Scott and Calvin pace, 1 year younger than Bryan Thomas but we are aging and you are young.

We do have question marks at safety as far as coverage goes but we still have better safeties than you do.

Our OL stunk last year- do you watch football? 4.2 YPC was an amazing #, future HOFer LT averaged 3.7- that's half a yd difference.

was our current OC running your offenses in Miami?

so you'd rather suck every year and clean house every 3-4 years? Now the hope is on a HC who "tasted Super Bowl victory before". We have one of those too and one who has actually led his team to multiple playoff apps and multiple playoff wins but that's ignored b/c it's a new era in Miami! never mind it's the 5th new era since your last playoff win.

CRAZYDOLFAN305 said:
David Garrard is twice the QB that Mark Sanchez has ever been. And Moore proved to be a better rated QB with less than Sanchez. Tannehill will ultimately be a better QB than Sanchez. Our defense was better in the all important category of PPG. Ill take Chad Johnson, Hartline and Bess over your trio of Wide Outs. Ill also take Our Trio Of Running Back over yours. I Can go on on. The bottom the Dolphins are better than the stinking Jets.
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:lol:

I change my mind, Miami will be 14-2 this year, we'll be 4-12.
 
Tureo said:
The schedule for the Jets before their bye week is tough with Pitt, San Fran, Hou, NE, and us twice. A strong start is a must for both teams, but especially for the Jets.
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holy cow that's brutal...jets are gonna be hungry when they play us...
 
hooshoops said:
holy cow that's brutal...jets are gonna be hungry when they play us...
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Looks tough on paper but you never know. SF a year ago looked like an "easy" game going into the season, I don't think it will turn out to be as bad as it seems. The good news is the ones that appear to be tough are all at home.

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I think we have to play the games before we can tell who's best. The Jets don't scare me.
 
i don't know why people think san fran is gonna fall off...jim harbaugh is legit as a head coach and that d is probably the most physical one in football...playmakers at every level of that d also...nasty
 
hooshoops said:
i don't know why people think san fran is gonna fall off...jim harbaugh is legit as a head coach and that d is probably the most physical one in football...playmakers at every level of that d also...nasty
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teams get good and bad every year, I have little doubt they will take a step back- how far? I don't know. Maybe it's 2 games down to 11-5? maybe it's 4 down to 9-7? maybe more but it won't be as "easy" as it was last year. It's a different beast going into the seasons w/ SB expectations rather than a year ago going in as an unknown.
 
i think if san fran is to fall off it's gonna have more to do with vic fangio no longer being there...and probably alex smith...although i think he can maintain his level of play from last year...i'm sure the scheds tougher also but that division doesn't look all that formidable to me...seattle zona and st louis probably all beating up on eachother and producing mid level win loss results...

but that's just me...
 
hooshoops said:
i think if san fran is to fall off it's gonna have more to do with vic fangio no longer being there...and probably alex smith...although i think he can maintain his level of play from last year...i'm sure the scheds tougher also but that division doesn't look all that formidable to me...seattle zona and st louis probably all beating up on eachother and producing mid level win loss results...

but that's just me...
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I think the bottom of the div is going to be much tougher which is one reason I have SF coming down a bit.
 
Vaark said:
How the **** did a thread in the main (by Fins fans for Fins Fans) forum, not Beasts of the East, specifically and appropriately regarding the Fins morph into a jest pissing contest????

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:lol: Like you don't know
 
hooshoops said:
i think if san fran is to fall off it's gonna have more to do with vic fangio no longer being there...and probably alex smith...although i think he can maintain his level of play from last year...i'm sure the scheds tougher also but that division doesn't look all that formidable to me...seattle zona and st louis probably all beating up on eachother and producing mid level win loss results...

but that's just me...
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SF has a on the field DC. Me nd you can be a DC on that team and Willis will still lead them to dominance.
 
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