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Pete Prisco: 7-9 for Dolphins

Vaark said:
On the other hand, last year I also said the jest would be a losing team. That would have worked out well if not for a Tony Romo last minute brainfart.
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the key words were "WOULD HAVE" so as usual you were wrong. if Miami WOULD HAVE won 4 more games they WOULD HAVE made the playoffs.

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Crazy685 said:
Considering none of us have superbowls, I'd say pretty similar.
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yep, very similar.

NYJ 28-20, 2 playoff apps, 4 playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Mia: 20-28, zero playoff apps, zero playoff wins

almost exactly the same
 
nyjunc said:
the key words were "WOULD HAVE" so as usual you were wrong. if Miami WOULD HAVE won 4 more games they WOULD HAVE made the playoffs.

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yep, very similar.

NYJ 28-20, 2 playoff apps, 4 playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Mia: 20-28, zero playoff apps, zero playoff wins

almost exactly the same
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ZERO Superbowls.

Exactly the same
 
nyjunc said:
the key words were "WOULD HAVE" so as usual you were wrong. if Miami WOULD HAVE won 4 more games they WOULD HAVE made the playoffs.

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yep, very similar.

NYJ 28-20, 2 playoff apps, 4 playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Mia: 20-28, zero playoff apps, zero playoff wins

almost exactly the same
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:lol: And here we go with that same rehashed argument. It's silly really that you keep clinging to that. It's almost akin to someone keeping milk a day past the expiration date because it wasn't opened 'til two days after you bought it. :lol:
 
nyjunc said:
the key words were "WOULD HAVE" so as usual you were wrong. if Miami WOULD HAVE won 4 more games they WOULD HAVE made the playoffs.

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yep, very similar.

NYJ 28-20, 2 playoff apps, 4 playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Mia: 20-28, zero playoff apps, zero playoff wins

almost exactly the same
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Yeah "woulda" is an interesting expression. Like if the Colts "woulda" kept those same starters who outscored the jest 45-27 even with 2 of their best 3 defenders either out or hobbled including 24-zip in the last 31 mins, then you'd have nothing other than 1season out of the last 3 to yap about. You should be kissing Polian's and Caldwell's feet for the poetic license you take when it comes to total wins and playoffs. ( I did not say "legitimate")

But enough of troll feeding and allowing you to derail a topic that had nothing to do with you for the 5000th time.
 
Ignoring the Jets for a moment (not something I find it difficult to do),

I've been thinking about our upcoming season and I'm experiencing a very strange sense of confidence. Everywhere I look, in every facet of the Miami game, I see a plan in place and I can buy that plan being delivered.

I don't think we have the perfect pieces, but we have good pieces for each plan. We have a coaching setup I have never felt so confident about since the great man himself. I can really see these coaches getting our players to make those plans happen. I think we'll catch a lot of teams cold in this first Philbin/Sherman/Coyle year. 3 close friends who have come together to achieve something special.

I don't think we're ready for a sustained run of success. I don't think we're going to a championship game. There will be some days when that plan gets beaten by a better plan or by better players with a similar plan.


But I see us going 10-6. I really do. That's my official pre-training prediction, folks.
 
nyjunc said:
NYJ 28-20, 2 playoff apps, 4 playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Mia: 20-28, zero playoff apps, zero playoff wins

almost exactly the same
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I didn't realize the NFL gave out 4th place medals. You do mental gymnastics to move the goal posts of an argument just so you always win, and frankly it's very tiring. You lack logic in almost every single thought you spew out, you simply exist to give the Jets every benefit of the doubt as well as receive a double standard in the face of others.

Just to review what i've learned from you before -

- The Jets being in 4th-6th place in the NFL, twice in the past 5 years, is almost as impressive as the Giants winning the superbowl twice in 5 years
- The Dolphins being below the Jets is a vast ocean and the Jets are simply biding their time.

Here are some simple, cold hard facts from a non biased party (I simply can't help but be logical with my review of football, it's in my nature). New York has required the services of two VERY unlikely situations to get to the AFC Championship game. Two. They've used up their luck. And for what? So you can pretend like it means a goddamn thing.

You're not the Patriots. The Patriots, year in and year out, are favorites and simply dominate. They almost make the superbowl almost every time and when they don't, it's considered an upset. The Jets, however, are on their way to nothing. They've realized that with their current starting QB, they simply need an amazing defense, a super strong running game, and a whole lot of bounces, including some of the worst game day decisions by a head coach (Caldwell) ever seen to reach the fight for 3rd place. Fantastic.

You seem to think the Jets are just ONE year away... that the pieces are there, but it hasn't come together. Let me spoil it for you. It isn't. And it won't. You have a head coach who, yes, is a fantastic game day coach and simply out coached the Patriots in 2009. But you've got a head coach who can't keep his locker room under control, you've got a quarterback who simply has 10% of the locker room believing in him. You've got a star WR who simply hates being there and makes it known, you've got a backup QB who is a celebrity superstar and placing pressure on your starting QB, pressure that he has shown he is unable to deal with.

You've got aging linebackers, some questionable draft picks, and an all pro superstar at CB. You've got question marks at safety, you've got a tremendous O Line with a ****ty running back who really struggles to break 4.2 yard per carry behind that awesome line. You've got an offensive coordinator who repeatedly proved to be extra conservative and stuck in a state of mind that plays an era of football that is simply non-existent anymore.

Miami has a ton of question marks but a lot of moves that, some on their face, appear negative. They've got a quarterback battle between two stop gaps, they've got a star runningback who is likely to revert back to his injury riddled ways, they've got a star receiver who now plays in Chicago because he simply couldn't stop being an ******* to teammates, and they've got draft picks that are the true definition of boom or bust. They've got an owner who has made an ass of himself on multiple occasions, and they've got a 1st time head coach.

Will they be as good as the Jets are? Who knows. They may. Do they have the potential to be much worse? Yup, they sure do. Is the potential there to be better? You better believe it.

So you tell me, Mr Argue absolutely everything then blindly pretend like you don't contradict yourself in almost every other post, what is better? To currently max out at "just not good enough"? Or to have the ability to shoot for the stars with the possibility to land in the mud?

You mockingly say "almost exactly the same" but you know what? I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to sit there and find ways to make coming in 4th place through multiple lucky bounces sound like it is something to be jealous off year after year, knowing my team won't make it. I'd rather deal with people like you making fun of a team that goes 6-10 one season and completely cleans house, and switches philosophies, using the gameplan of a man who has tasted superbowl victory before. I'd rather have that. SO NO, Miami and New York ARE NOT the same... Miami's future has the potential to be so much brighter.
 
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Crazy685 said:
I didn't realize the NFL gave out 4th place medals. You do mental gymnastics to move the goal posts of an argument just so you always win, and frankly it's very tiring. You lack logic in almost every single thought you spew out, you simply exist to give the Jets every benefit of the doubt as well as receive a double standard in the face of others.

Just to review what i've learned from you before -

- The Jets being in 4th-6th place in the NFL, twice in the past 5 years, is almost as impressive as the Giants winning the superbowl twice in 5 years
- The Dolphins being below the Jets is a vast ocean and the Jets are simply biding their time.

Here are some simple, cold hard facts from a non biased party (I simply can't help but be logical with my review of football, it's in my nature). New York has required the services of two VERY unlikely situations to get to the AFC Championship game. Two. They've used up their luck. And for what? So you can pretend like it means a goddamn thing.

You're not the Patriots. The Patriots, year in and year out, are favorites and simply dominate. They almost make the superbowl almost every time and when they don't, it's considered an upset. The Jets, however, are on their way to nothing. They've realized that with their current starting QB, they simply need an amazing defense, a super strong running game, and a whole lot of bounces, including some of the worst game day decisions by a head coach (Caldwell) ever seen to reach the fight for 3rd place. Fantastic.

You seem to think the Jets are just ONE year away... that the pieces are there, but it hasn't come together. Let me spoil it for you. It isn't. And it won't. You have a head coach who, yes, is a fantastic game day coach and simply out coached the Patriots in 2009. But you've got a head coach who can't keep his locker room under control, you've got a quarterback who simply has 10% of the locker room believing in him. You've got a star WR who simply hates being there and makes it known, you've got a backup QB who is a celebrity superstar and placing pressure on your starting QB, pressure that he has shown he is unable to deal with.

You've got aging linebackers, some questionable draft picks, and an all pro superstar at CB. You've got question marks at safety, you've got a tremendous O Line with a ****ty running back who really struggles to break 4.2 yard per carry behind that awesome line. You've got an offensive coordinator who repeatedly proved to be extra conservative and stuck in a state of mind that plays an era of football that is simply non-existent anymore.

Miami has a ton of question marks but a lot of moves that, some on their face, appear negative. They've got a quarterback battle between two stop gaps, they've got a star runningback who is likely to revert back to his injury riddled ways, they've got a star receiver who now plays in Chicago because he simply couldn't stop being an ******* to teammates, and they've got draft picks that are the true definition of boom or bust. They've got an owner who has made an ass of himself on multiple occasions, and they've got a 1st time head coach.

Will they be as good as the Jets are? Who knows. They may. Do they have the potential to be much worse? Yup, they sure do. Is the potential there to be better? You better believe it.

So you tell me, Mr Argue absolutely everything then blindly pretend like you don't contradict yourself in almost every other post, what is better? To currently max out at "just not good enough"? Or to have the ability to shoot for the stars with the possibility to land in the mud?

You mockingly say "almost exactly the same" but you know what? I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to sit there and find ways to make coming in 4th place through multiple lucky bounces sound like it is something to be jealous off year after year, knowing my team won't make it. I'd rather deal with people like you making fun of a team that goes 6-10 one season and completely cleans house, and switches philosophies, using the gameplan of a man who has tasted superbowl victory before. I'd rather have that. SO NO, Miami and New York ARE NOT the same... Miami's future has the potential to be so much brighter.
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and boom goes the dynamite...
 
David Garrard is twice the QB that Mark Sanchez has ever been. And Moore proved to be a better rated QB with less than Sanchez. Tannehill will ultimately be a better QB than Sanchez. Our defense was better in the all important category of PPG. Ill take Chad Johnson, Hartline and Bess over your trio of Wide Outs. Ill also take Our Trio Of Running Back over yours. I Can go on on. The bottom the Dolphins are better than the stinking Jets.
 
CRAZYDOLFAN305 said:
David Garrard is twice the QB that Mark Sanchez has ever been. And Moore proved to be a better rated QB with less than Sanchez. Tannehill will ultimately be a better QB than Sanchez. Our defense was better in the all important category of PPG. Ill take Chad Johnson, Hartline and Bess over your trio of Wide Outs. Ill also take Our Trio Of Running Back over yours. I Can go on on. The bottom the Dolphins are better than the stinking Jets.
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And you lost me there........
and there......
and there.....
and there....

sadly. lol
 
Yeah, you're not really being realistic. I'll give you Moore/Garrard/Tannehill over Sanchez/Tebow but their corps of WRs are way way above ours. We'd need Chad Johnson 3 years ago to compare.
 
The schedule for the Jets before their bye week is tough with Pitt, San Fran, Hou, NE, and us twice. A strong start is a must for both teams, but especially for the Jets.
 
hooshoops said:
that's pretty much in line...7-8 8-8 somewhere in there unless tanny gets in and lights it on fire
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You think he will see the field? I really don't see that happening unless it's garbage time. Even then I think it's doubtful we will see the #8 overall play this season
 
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