it is subjective stats and it is an awful list.
PFF "Cumulative Quarterback Summary" for 2013
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it is subjective stats and it is an awful list.
To you maybe. You don't build the reputation that site has with subjective analysis. You sound bitter...
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And you are the "Rich Cotite" of finheaven
I know my QB stunk most of last year, I also know that bottom of this list QB badly outplayed #7(
) in the biggest game of Ryan's career.No one can respect a list like this. "experts" like to cite stats like these to make themselves appear more knowledgeable to their readers/listeners but this list is just awful. Pure comedy.
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who is Rich Cotite?
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yeah, I just broke my keyboard I am so bitter
you can believe anything you want. there isn't a knowledgeable person connected w/ the league that thinks Ryan Tannehill was the #7 QB last year and better than tom Brady(despite Ryan being a younger/more athletic Brady)I know my QB stunk most of last year, I also know that bottom of this list QB badly outplayed #7(
No one can respect a list like this. "experts" like to cite stats like these to make themselves appear more knowledgeable to their readers/listeners but this list is just awful. Pure comedy.
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who is Rich Cotite?
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yeah, I just broke my keyboard I am so bitter
I think you need to read how PFF does their stats and what this list even insinuates. No one is saying RT is better than Brady. They're saying that statistically, given certain circumstances and situations RT was more efficient than Brady in whole. Which isn't that hard to believe, seeing that Brady had an all time bad start to last season and didn't snap out of it till the Steelers game.
And RT wasn't outplayed by your ****ty QB. He was outplayed by his own OLine and the Jets/Bills DLine. Let down consistently throughout the year. New record in sacks allowed? That's all time bad. You keep believing what you want.
I don't need to read it, I see the list. That is enough for me to laugh at it.
make all the OL excuses you want, Ryan had chances to get that team to postseason and failed. The only reason they were even in the race was b/c the D carried them most of the year.
Seattle's OL gave up a higher rate of sacks, somehow their QB stepped up and made plays.
Brady had no talent around him and led his team to the title game, Ryan had a much more talented team around him and couldn't even get to postseason.
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yeah, I just broke my keyboard I am so bitter you can believe anything you want. there isn't a knowledgeable person connected w/ the league that thinks Ryan Tannehill was the #7 QB last year and better than tom Brady(despite Ryan being a younger/more athletic Brady)[/QUOTE]
Ryan definitely outplayed Brady the first half of the season in case you forgot how ****ty Brady was. This is a statistical analysis. It isn't subjective at all like your opinion about this list is. You are simply bitter because, your team is still in need of a QB and Miami isn't. Admit it. The truth will set you free. LOL
yeah, I just broke my keyboard I am so bitter
you can believe anything you want. there isn't a knowledgeable person connected w/ the league that thinks Ryan Tannehill was the #7 QB last year and better than tom Brady(despite Ryan being a younger/more athletic Brady)[/QUOTE]Ryan definitely outplayed Brady the first half of the season in case you forgot how ****ty Brady was. This is a statistical analysis. It isn't subjective at all like your opinion about this list is. You are simply bitter because, your team is still in need of a QB and Miami isn't. Admit it. The truth will set you free. LOL
truedolfan57
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I know my QB stunk most of last year, I also know that bottom of this list QB badly outplayed #7(
I know my QB was pretty good last year, minus a few games. Those few games does not negate what he did the other 14 games. And last i checked, QB's don't beat other qb's. They bead defenses. The whole, my qb beat your qb, or qb vs qb is just retarded. Same as how Brady has Peyton's number. F that. NE defense has Peyton's number.
I know my QB stunk most of last year, I also know that bottom of this list QB badly outplayed #7(
No one can respect a list like this. "experts" like to cite stats like these to make themselves appear more knowledgeable to their readers/listeners but this list is just awful. Pure comedy.
You'd know ...
[video=youtube_share;cXWbMu4PtpE]http://youtu.be/cXWbMu4PtpE[/video]
:)
1st half of season:
Brady 6-2
Ryan 4-4
O PPG:
NE 21.5
Mia 19.8
Brady 9 TDs
Ryan 11
Brady 6 INTs
Ryan 9
games w/ multiple INTs:
Brady zero
Ryan 3
add in the ridiculous difference in talent and that Brady led 3 late game comebacks(to 1 for Ryan) and Ryan wasn't anywhere near as good as Brady in stats or real life.
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minus a few-
@NO
@NE
Bal
Buf
TB
Car
@Buf
NYJ
yeah, minus a few
truedolfan57
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oh yeah, seattles number 1 defense didn't carry them at all.
and making, or missing the playoffs doesn't mean a qb is better or worse, as a whole. it's not like if tannehill made the playoffs, he's be shot up to best qb ever, same as if brady missed the playoffs, wouldn't mean he's the worst qb to ever play the game. You are just too extreme in your point of views, but alas, you are a jets fan.
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1st half of season:
Brady 6-2
Ryan 4-4
O PPG:
NE 21.5
Mia 19.8
Brady 9 TDs
Ryan 11
Brady 6 INTs
Ryan 9
games w/ multiple INTs:
Brady zero
Ryan 3
add in the ridiculous difference in talent and that Brady led 3 late game comebacks(to 1 for Ryan) and Ryan wasn't anywhere near as good as Brady in stats or real life.
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minus a few-
@NO
@NE
Bal
Buf
TB
Car
@Buf
NYJ
yeah, minus a few
yeah, let me just go ahead and pick and choose stats, rather than use all the stats relevant to the QB...oh, PFF already did that. Thanks for playing though.
oh yeah, seattles number 1 defense didn't carry them at all.
and making, or missing the playoffs doesn't mean a qb is better or worse, as a whole. it's not like if tannehill made the playoffs, he's be shot up to best qb ever, same as if brady missed the playoffs, wouldn't mean he's the worst qb to ever play the game. You are just too extreme in your point of views, but alas, you are a jets fan.
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yeah, let me just go ahead and pick and choose stats, rather than use all the stats relevant to the QB...oh, PFF already did that. Thanks for playing though.
Your D was damn good, how many games did they win? No one is saying Ryan had to win a SB but the point is they had an OL allowing more sacks per pass attempt. Your OL cost you games but so did your QB including the biggest one of the year where he wasn't touched all game.
He had a playoff caliber team around him, he didn't make enough plays in big moments or big games. if he did you would have made it.
AGAIN, I am not saying he won't be good but for anyone to say he was a top 10 QB this year they just have no clue what they are watching. he has potential to be a good QB, he's not there yet.
truedolfan57
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You keep leaving out that wilson had more long sacks. which means he held onto the ball for a longer amount of times, before he was sacked. which can easily say that those sacks are wilson or coverage sacks. tannehill had much less time to throw the ball on his sacks. but we've already been over this, and you just keep ignoring that FACT. And yes, the last game, tannehill wasn't touched. but during the rest of the season, he was sacked 58 times. You telling me you don't think that could have been a factor? that maybe he lost confidence in his Oline? he's a young QB. no one is crowning him the best ever. the OP isn't even saying tannehill is the 7th best qb in the nfl. just that passing/rushing wise, he was 7th.
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Kinda like your "27th rated but top 10 best"...
NOBODY is going to listien to you when it comes to what makes a good QB:lol2: