PFF Has Dolphins D At #4
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Im sorry you feel that way. Everything I have heard from PFF, everything that you and Shoutright post regarding stats, is ridiculous. You started the thread. You think we have the number 4th overall defense. Its a fact that we are the 20th rated scoring defense in the NFL. So you post PFF "thinks" we are the #4 defense, I post factually we are the #20th rated defense, you that bores you? Well, sorry to hear that but but every stat I have read from PFF thus far is ridiculous, none moreso than this one however
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Theeeees.. Although anything that discredits PFF's fictional rankings, is boring.
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Theeeees.. Although anything that discredits PFF's fictional rankings, is boring.
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And it's not based on how well we do when our opponents are in 3rd and long situations. :rickybrow
Well, 20th in points given up has to account for all the fumbles Tannehill has had that put teams in a situation to score.
I wouldn't put us at 4th, but I wouldn't put us at 20, either. I'd say we're somewhere between 10th-15th best D and the D has been good enough to have us posting a 4-2 or even 5-1 record (Ravens game is tough to judge due to the terrible PI calls on our D and the O falling short at the end).
I wouldn't put us at 4th, but I wouldn't put us at 20, either. I'd say we're somewhere between 10th-15th best D and the D has been good enough to have us posting a 4-2 or even 5-1 record (Ravens game is tough to judge due to the terrible PI calls on our D and the O falling short at the end).
We're also 21st in yards given up, which means that we allow teams to go down the field, and then score (20th in scoring). It makes total sense and really proves that 20th in points given up is moreso the defenses inability to stop teams offenses from moving up and down the field and scoring on those drives, than it is Tannehill turning the ball over (although that doesnt help).
Not sure why people cant admit we have a very average defense. I wouldnt put it in the top ten. Really what it comes down to is this team not having two things that work at the same time. For example when the offense is on the defense isn't, and when the defense is on the offense isnt. They never have the offense and defense playng complete games at the same time.
Once you've reached this point in the season, yards per play is a reliable bottom line indication. We're 19th offensively and 17th defensively.
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PFF ranks were at 25% of snaps. If I go to 50%, Jones is at #43. He's at #28 vs the run, and #52 in coverage. Clemons is #6 in cover, and #50 vs the run.
Ellerbe would move to #23, being average except for bad vs the run with 7 missed tackles.
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why are they ranking at 25 percent of snaps??? i don't get that...not sure what that means either...why 50 percent??? why not 100 percent??? they play every down...some of em do at least
see clemons at #6 is in coverage is crazy...just cause he doesn't get put in one on one opportunities schematically very often doesn't mean he's not awful when he does...the indy game red flagged that...if luck had more time on the fleener cross clemons face one on one that was an easy 6...
What good is doing a ranking on only 25% of the snaps? What happened to ranking the entire sample, 100% of snaps?
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Didnt see you asked the same question. Pretty stupid to do a ranking when you are taking only a quarter, then a half, of the sample size.
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Didnt see you asked the same question. Pretty stupid to do a ranking when you are taking only a quarter, then a half, of the sample size.
PFF should only charge 25% of what they do charge for an account.
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Im sorry you feel that way. Everything I have heard from PFF, everything that you and Shoutright post regarding stats, is ridiculous. You started the thread. You think we have the number 4th overall defense. Its a fact that we are the 20th rated scoring defense in the NFL. So you post PFF "thinks" we are the #4 defense, I post factually we are the #20th rated defense, you that bores you? Well, sorry to hear that but but every stat I have read from PFF thus far is ridiculous, none moreso than this one however
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dolpns13, You make a good point on #20 in points allowed but, one post is just laughing, and the point is with calling PFF garbage. To me, that's not based on knowledge. Their eyeball method of grading and rankings is different, and a bit of what you see posted is nowhere remotely near what the site offers.
Something a bit similar. After the Bills game, I asked a friend to visit this forum, thinking he would enjoy it. He e-mailed me back on Monday that the forum SUCKED. He had looked at the thread titles to see the season over, replacing the coaches, replacing RT, etc, and he did not in any way want to learn anymore of Finheaven.
He was wrong, took a second look, and is reading every day. Don't know if you see the comparison but, I do.
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dolpns13, You make a good point on #20 in points allowed but, one post is just laughing, and the point is with calling PFF garbage. To me, that's not based on knowledge. Their eyeball method of grading and rankings is different, and a bit of what you see posted is nowhere remotely near what the site offers.
Something a bit similar. After the Bills game, I asked a friend to visit this forum, thinking he would enjoy it. He e-mailed me back on Monday that the forum SUCKED. He had looked at the thread titles to see the season over, replacing the coaches, replacing RT, etc, and he did not in any way want to learn anymore of Finheaven.
He was wrong, took a second look, and is reading every day. Don't know if you see the comparison but, I do.
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Sorry, I should have clarified this. When you click on positions, they go to players who were in for 25% of the teams snaps for the rankings. You can change that to 50, 60, or 70% to see only starters or All to include every player who has played a snap.
Sorry, I dont see the comparison.