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PFT Raises Interesting Question

we're not overpaying for ronnie brown. Some people just need to realize this is how it works.
 
CrunchTime said:
I agree with most of the premise of the article except that letting the clock run out was not a realistic option.

Although I like Ronnie Brown as a player I think he was taken too high for a RB for the reasons explained in the article.

I was really hoping to trade down to the 4-5 spot AND draft Ronnie.But it was not possible.

The problem is that QBs historically get more than RBs in the first round of the draft and deservedly so.

The system does not differentiate among positions so Browns agent is seeking a package similar to what a QB would expect in the No 2 slot.

Thats one of the factors that is wrong wirh the system.The agent wants to get a package commensurate to the slot and the Dolphins are offering a package commensurate to the RB position .
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The slot at which Brown was taken was determined by the talent and needs (although moreso for talent) around him in the draft. We happened to have needed a RB at the time that Brown was available. Taking Brown was our best option. I'm not even sure that Smith was a better selection (had he been available.) As you said, letting the clock run out was really not an option either.

It's pretty difficult to compare slotted picks from year to year. For example, if Manning (either) were available this year, would Smith had been taken first ?? No way...it's all relative to what talent is available at the time you pick.

I think if Saban had had his druthers, he would have traded down and gotten more picks as well...but that obviously wasn't an option at that time. The issue is that you have 15 mins to make your decision and you have to move on.

I think people who are saying things bad about Brown and where he was taken is due to the holdout and the zeal for fans to have him in camp, not in regards to his talent. He wasn't taken too high for a RB, he was taken when his talent was slotted, this year it happened to be the #2 overall pick...

The idiots at PFT throw stuff like this out, as if it were "wise and prudent" information. The fact is that it's hogwash, Monday morning QBing, etc...Why even read that crap...
 
This part really gets on my nerves:
Although the Dolphins might now be tempted to not sign Brown at all and let him re-enter the draft next year, especially since Ricky Williams is back and looking as good as ever, the stigma of letting a top-five pick go because of the money he wanted would be too great. It would have been far better, in our opinion, for Miami to consciously and deliberately allow the 15-minute selection period on draft day to expire, waiting until a couple of the high-end running backs were gone before jumping on the one that was left over.
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I don't think ANYONE is even thinking that.
 
in hindsight, it might not have been a bad idea. the browns weren't going to take him, and i believe that the bears and bucs had benson and caddy as the #1 backs on their respective boards. but, he'd still probably be holding out.
 
Phishstix said:
in hindsight, it might not have been a bad idea. the browns weren't going to take him, and i believe that the bears and bucs had benson and caddy as the #1 backs on their respective boards. but, he'd still probably be holding out.
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Miami would still be slotted in the second pick, too. How could it possibly be anything but a bad idea?
 
Jimmy James said:
Miami would still be slotted in the second pick, too. How could it possibly be anything but a bad idea?
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damn, i don't know jimmy. sometimes i just ramble on and post things that don't make a lick of sense. :D
 
I am not disputing that Ronnie Brown was the second best player on the board.My point is how much of that 3 million difference that Browns agent is seeking is justifiable compared to a QB taken in that slot.

I think thats what they are haggling about now.Its logical to think they will finally settle for something in the middle.
 
Bottomline is it would have lead to the same situation we're in now.
 
CrunchTime said:
I agree with most of the premise of the article except that letting the clock run out was not a realistic option.

Although I like Ronnie Brown as a player I think he was taken too high for a RB for the reasons explained in the article.

I was really hoping to trade down to the 4-5 spot AND draft Ronnie.But it was not possible.

The problem is that QBs historically get more than RBs in the first round of the draft and deservedly so.

The system does not differentiate among positions so Browns agent is seeking a package similar to what a QB would expect in the No 2 slot.

Thats one of the factors that is wrong wirh the system.The agent wants to get a package commensurate to the slot and the Dolphins are offering a package commensurate to the RB position .
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Thats a great point and to elaborate further, the system is also outdated. Its been a handful of years since Tomlinson was taken 5th overall and that was the last rb to go top 5. Therefore its not even possible to set a realistic benchmark for the signing bonus that should be received by a RB selected top 5.
 
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