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PFT: Report: Authorities are looking at Mike Pouncey as more than a witness

I'm beginning to take what Coach Philbin says with a grain of salt. Too many inconsistencies thus far with the new coach of the Miami Dolphins. But that's a while 'nother topic.
 
flynryan15 said:
These incidents appear to be during his NFL career. However what I am referring to is what came out of Philbins own mouth when he cut Chad Johnson.
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Right but up until now, noone knew he was invloved in anything so I dont think it is fair to call Ireland and dumbass for drafting him or Philbin a liar for keeping him to this point. Now if it comes out he was invloved and Philbin/Ireland keep him, yes, they'd be liars-feed them to the wolves.

Aside from a conviction I dont see Miami releasing Pouncey (even if he was involved and takes a plea deal, and stays out of prison I dont Miami cutting him). With Gronk Hernandez was expendable and not NE's best player. Pouncey is arguably our best player. This regime seems to say one thing and do the complete opposite while also playing favorites so with that I dont think theyd cut him.
 
flynryan15 said:
Exactly and why would the state subpoena a witness? Only happens if one doesn't play nice!
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The state subpoena's a witness for any number of reasons. One is when the witness is from out of state and the crime is a state crime. Fits the Pouncey situation to a tee.
 
nick1 said:
a subpoena means you have to testify or face punishment. You usually don't subpoena somebody who is being a good witness
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It is a court order to formally tell the guy to show. I think more is being made of this. SI has poor track record lately
 
This season is turning into some nightmare - just in time for Halloween.
 
I bet he is regretting that he wore that "Free Hernandez" hat right about now. This would be a big loss for the fins. As they say, "When it rains, it pours."
 
flynryan15 said:
You might be confused to. No one knows what the subpoena actually says for all we know the state could be seeking a indictment on Pouncey.
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I am not confused. He did not commit a crime in Mass. If the gun thing was true the Commonwealth would not be trying to solve it. It would be a fed issue.

They want him to bag Hernandez.

Btw, so many are trusting of government. Who leaked to SI and Greg Bedard that Pouncey was involved in something? The govt did. They are already trying to win the case via news media. Why did the Mass police...act like thugs at times....serve Pouncey at the game? It is Govt grand standing and they want to pressure and scare Pouncey to try to get something on Hernandez.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I think you're way off. They have tons. The timeline is devastating along with the surveillance cameras piecing everything together. This is a simple conviction. Hernandez will never spend another day as a free man. As in sports, people tend to overreact to the most recent example. Just because Zimmerman got off in a high profile case you can't apply any of it to Hernandez. Years ago I actually had someone bet me that Scott Peterson would get off, solely because the big televised cases prior to that in California had ended in acquittal.

The authorities are not taking anything for granted and are covering every angle. The Boston media has been doing a great job of covering it. That's why I'm shocked the Dolphins and Pouncey weren't aware of the possibility that he might be subpoenaed. Frankly, I hope Pouncey is questioned in regard to the 2007 incident in Gainesville, when Hernandez was a freshman.

As Hayden indicated in a previous post, the focus is on Hernandez. I doubt the authorities, even if it's federal, with push against Pouncey. I wouldn't be surprised if it's gun related. Too many young men and particularly young athletes are gun obsessed and don't understand the significance or the liability. If they have a permit or some type of legal authority they mistakenly think it applies everywhere, and not merely to that weapon in that state. Pouncey easily could have agreed to a gun-related payment or payments, believing it was innocent and not blatantly illegal. If he was dealing guns, even in relatively small scale, that's another matter. The feds will push against him and rightfully so.
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I am not Hernandez backer. I do think he did something, but they might not prove it.

No weapon
Scumbag witness
Dumb grainy picture they will claim is a gun and nobody outside of a desperate prosecution will know for sure is a gun. They are in trouble and know it. Hence going after Mike Pouncey.
 
Hayden Fox said:
I am not confused. He did not commit a crime in Mass. If the gun thing was true the Commonwealth would not be trying to solve it. It would be a fed issue.

They want him to bag Hernandez.

Btw, so many are trusting of government. Who leaked to SI and Greg Bedard that Pouncey was involved in something? The govt did. They are already trying to win the case via news media. Why did the Mass police...act like thugs at times....serve Pouncey at the game? It is Govt grand standing and they want to pressure and scare Pouncey to try to get something on Hernandez.
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It's hard not to leak something when you serve a guy at a National Venue which is why it is more then a witness. The very nature of Pouncey being high profile the State Attorney would have worked with Pounceys representation to have him come in voluntary. As far as the state gun crime highly likely they uncovered it in their investigation of Hernandez and alerted the Feds to the multi-state. Massachusetts has some of the most strict gun laws in the country and it isn't hard to break them. Contrary to what you are claiming of the states weak murder case Pouncey stepped on his dick here! The state has a strong murder case on Hernandez for Lloyd and they are trying to get him on the other 2 and put him away for life without parole.
 
Hayden Fox said:
I am not Hernandez backer. I do think he did something, but they might not prove it.

No weapon
Scumbag witness
Dumb grainy picture they will claim is a gun and nobody outside of a desperate prosecution will know for sure is a gun. They are in trouble and know it. Hence going after Mike Pouncey.
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The text messages say it all! Sooner or later the baby momma will flip and sea the deal. Do you really think you have even seen 5% of the prosecutions case/evidence?
 
flynryan15 said:
The text messages say it all! Sooner or later the baby momma will flip and sea the deal. Do you really think you have even seen 5% of the prosecutions case/evidence?
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I think he could very well walk. He will get hammered for obstruction, but when the star witness is a scumbag himself....good luck state.
 
flynryan15 said:
It's hard not to leak something when you serve a guy at a National Venue which is why it is more then a witness. The very nature of Pouncey being high profile the State Attorney would have worked with Pounceys representation to have him come in voluntary. As far as the state gun crime highly likely they uncovered it in their investigation of Hernandez and alerted the Feds to the multi-state. Massachusetts has some of the most strict gun laws in the country and it isn't hard to break them. Contrary to what you are claiming of the states weak murder case Pouncey stepped on his dick here! The state has a strong murder case on Hernandez for Lloyd and they are trying to get him on the other 2 and put him away for life without parole.
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I think prosecutors are just as scummy as defense lawyers. I think Hernandez lawyers eat these guys up. They have cryptic texts...no forensics, no weapon, a dumb grainy photo and scum bag who is attempting to save his own ass that will kill the govt and their case. They are in trouble and will embarrass an even more lost state.
 
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