Place the blame in the Right Place!

[ThunderCane]

On the Sun-Sentinel sports web page they have a poll posted (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/) asking who is to blame for the season, such as I did here. Majority of the voters place the blame on Wanny. I totally disagree!



I am one of the many Wanny bashers in South Florida. I have disliked him after his first season here. But to blame him for this season is totally preposterous.



All the personnel decisions where taken away from him and given to Spielman. He is the one that jumped the gun to give a 2nd round pick for Feeley and pass on other veteran QB’s, like Kerry Collins. That would have cost us no picks and lesser money. Also Spielman is the guy that was not able to land any of the top free agent O-line available. So lets blame Spielman. NO!



Let us blame the man that is responsible keeping Wanny and Spielman in their positions. That is right, Mr. Wayne Huizenga. This is the man that did not hire an experienced GM and kept Wanny on as head coach. This season is a joke cause the owner is the punch line.



The Dolphins will never amount to anything as long as Huizenga remains owner. Unless, he calls up Daniel M. Snyder Owner of the Redskins and ask how to learn from mistakes. Learning from mistakes is the one thing that Huizenga has not shown the ability of.



The Fins are off the worst start in 35 years and the only “ONE†person to blame is the egotistical boy named Wayne Huizenga. He had to do it his way! His way has failed miserably!

 

[Dolphan7]

Well you can blame Wayne, but he is not going to fire himself or sell the team. Instead we should focus on getting rid of Wanny. I think Rick has done good, but if we got someone else that would be just fine too. Clean the %#$%#$% house man!

 

[Jimmy James]

Among these three, I have it at:

50% Wanny
48% Wayne
2% Rick

 

[DOLFANMIKE]

I can't believe injuries aren't a voting option. Wanny & co may be the reason we can't win more than 9-10-11 games and maybe even why we are doing poorly in the playoffs.....but this poor start is because of injuries IMO & Ricky.

Boston, Williams, Surtain, Bowens, Konrad, Chester, McIntosh, Atkins, etc...all have missed time with injuries

 

[3P]

Among these three, I have it at:
50% Wanny
48% Wayne
2% Rick

Perfect split there...

Wanny for being inept, and unable to adjust to the personel given to him. That's what a coach is supposed to do.

Wayne is also largely at fault for keeping Wanny around.

Rick has been solid. He's made the best with a horrible offseason. To say that Feeley and Gordon are flops, I'd say that you can't tell because of the horrid play of the offensive line. While Rick was in charge of upgrading that this offseason, he did all he could spending a 1st rounder and bringing in a couple of decent free agents. I don't disagree with Rick on any of the line moves he made, including those that he passed on.

 

[Rebar71]

Teams don't get this bad over night. Wanny spent 4 years creating this mess before his GM responsibilities were stripped.

 

[Alxphins]

Perfect split there...
Wanny for being inept, and unable to adjust to the personel given to him. That's what a coach is supposed to do.
Wayne is also largely at fault for keeping Wanny around.
Rick has been solid. He's made the best with a horrible offseason. To say that Feeley and Gordon are flops, I'd say that you can't tell because of the horrid play of the offensive line. While Rick was in charge of upgrading that this offseason, he did all he could spending a 1st rounder and bringing in a couple of decent free agents. I don't disagree with Rick on any of the line moves he made, including those that he passed on.

Rick has not been solid. The pick up of Feeley and the handiling of the McIntosh signing were horrible. Carey at this point as a first rounder has not helped. James and Boston were good. But the issue I have with Rick is as follows: Everybody knew the O-line was a priority back in January and currently, based on there performance, they are far and away the worst o-line in football (Last in rushing and giving up a big number of sacks). So what ever you want to say about his pickups you can't refute this fact:

His task was to upgrade and impove the O-line and what we currently have is not only not an upgrade, but a significant downgrade based on their performance, period. They may in the long run become better, but in the process we have wasted a whole season and probably the best years of a very good defense.

 

[Lawrence]

Rick should not be given a free pass for putting together a sorry offensive line, trading a 2nd rd pick for Feeley, trading a 3rd for Gordon, failing to sign your team mvp, trading another pick to move up and reach for Carey. These are major mistakes that not only costs us at the moment, but will continue to cost us in the future. While I agree that Wanny is too blame as well, I don't think Rick should be let off the hook.

 

[Jimmy James]

Rick has not been solid. The pick up of Feeley and the handiling of the McIntosh signing were horrible. Carey at this point as a first rounder has not helped. James and Boston were good. But the issue I have with Rick is as follows: Everybody knew the O-line was a priority back in January and currently, based on there performance, they are far and away the worst o-line in football (Last in rushing and giving up a big number of sacks). So what ever you want to say about his pickups you can't refute this fact:
His task was to upgrade and impove the O-line and what we currently have is not only not an upgrade, but a significant downgrade based on their performance, period. They may in the long run become better, but in the process we have wasted a whole season and probably the best years of a very good defense.

What did you expect from Rick? He can't go out there and play all 5 positions himself, you know.

What did Rick do in an offseason to address the line:

- James
- St. Clair
- McIntosh (flawed as it was)
- Carey
- Hadnot
- Pape

How many more bodies did you want? We have been all over why we didn't get Tait and why that wasn't going to happen. The Woody situation is tougher, but it came down to Rick having a ceiling on his offer. Rick can't pull linemen out of his nether regions any more than he can play all 5 positions at once.

Compare what Rick did in one offseason to what Dave did (or DIDN'T do) in 3/4 and get back to us...

 

[Jimmy James]

Rick should not be given a free pass for putting together a sorry offensive line,

What more did you people expect him to do in ONE OFFSEASON?

trading a 2nd rd pick for Feeley

As I recall, this was a popular move until 7.5 days ago...

trading a 3rd for Gordon

Why should there be ANY blame for this? He has looked just as good as anybody else, and he has less than a month in the system.

failing to sign your team mvp

You really think Wale is worth that? I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM...

trading another pick to move up and reach for Carey.

This is the one thing I believe Rick handled unacceptably poorly. One out of all the deals he made isn't bad.

 

[Finsfan13]

The Dolphins will never amount to anything as long as Huizenga remains owner. Unless, he calls up Daniel M. Snyder Owner of the Redskins and ask how to learn from mistakes. Learning from mistakes is the one thing that Huizenga has not shown the ability of.

I disagree. Wayne Huizenga has proven he will do anything to get a winner in here. He did what he could and brought in Jimmy Johnson. However, he listens to the football guys too much.... like listening to JJ on who should replace him. He trusts the guys he gives the power to.... and it's not working out.

He researched when interviewing a GM for what others thought of how to upgrade the team. What their views were. I'm sure they consistently told WH to get another QB, more younger talent on the O-line, and another WR to compliment Chambers.

The reason for us losing is....

1. The lack of true leadership by our Head Coach - he has no vision how to get there
2. Ricky Williams'love of marijuana more than anything else
3. Injuries on Injuries, coupled with four hurricanes from pre-season to week 3.

When we got Feeley, Collins wasn't released. No one expected Garcia to be released. Kurt Warner was still a Ram. Waiting on any of these would have been a gamble as well.

And the Redskins haven't won anything yet. They were lucky to lure the former coach out of retirement. Wait and see before you vote Dan Snyder "Owner of the Year."

 

[3P]

What did you expect from Rick? He can't go out there and play all 5 positions himself, you know.
What did Rick do in an offseason to address the line:
- James
- St. Clair
- McIntosh (flawed as it was)
- Carey
- Hadnot
- Pape
How many more bodies did you want? We have been all over why we didn't get Tait and why that wasn't going to happen. The Woody situation is tougher, but it came down to Rick having a ceiling on his offer. Rick can't pull linemen out of his nether regions any more than he can play all 5 positions at once.
Compare what Rick did in one offseason to what Dave did (or DIDN'T do) in 3/4 and get back to us...

Ding Ding Ding!

Rick went after two big names in Tait and Woody. Woody got waaaay overpaid by Detroit. Score one for Rick. Tait (or his wife) decided that they liked Chicago better. Rick had no part in that.

Who besides those two was Rick supposed to pick up?

Exactly.

Saying it was a known need since January is completely overlooking the fact that it has been a known need for 2 or 3 seasons now. Wanny did NOTHING except draft an OL in I believe the 3rd and 5th rounds. Even that, I'm sure was Rick's doing after Wanny got his way with Eddie in the 2nd.

As for Feeley... I can't write him off at this point. He's playing behind one of the WORST offensive lines I've ever seen, with a cast of offensive players who are just about all new (some added as little as 2 or 3 weeks ago). Same deal for Gordon. What a bad RB not being able to elude 4 tacklers to get back to the line. :shakeno:

While I'm ranting... lets address the Ogun trade...

Ogun wasn't going to play this year. Period. Spielman rightfully set a spending limit on Ogun, and it wasn't going to happen. With all the money currently tied up in the D, I applaud him for taking a holdout DE and getting us quality players (not to mention saving us a large cap hit for years to come) in an effort to help out what was becoming a patchwork offense.

You can't fire the man after one whole season when it is going to take several to recover from the ineptitude in Wanny's previous drafts.

 

[Lawrence]

What more did you people expect him to do in ONE OFFSEASON?



As I recall, this was a popular move until 7.5 days ago...

Why should there be ANY blame for this? He has looked just as good as anybody else, and he has less than a month in the system.

You really think Wale is worth that? I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM...

This is the one thing I believe Rick handled unacceptably poorly. One out of all the deals he made isn't bad.

Popular amongst who? Not me or anyone I know, only these Fiedler hating people on here.
Martz drafted Faulk's replacement because he knew Gordon was inconsistent and injury prone. Then he robbed our 3 rd pick.
I think that the dolfins should have tried harder to re-sign him, and in the end they got ripped off by Chicago.

 

[UltraDol-Fan]

The blame has to be put on Wanny for the fact that the playcalling this year is the worst I have ever seen. How can you not use the shotgun, how can you not roll out the quarterback, its ridiculous.

 

[fin13]

Phinphan you are right, don't forget also that the 2001 1st round pick now plays for the chargers.
Wanny thought that a great defense and a decent offense could win it all ie. the Ravens.
The problem is that he is not the coach the Ravens have and our D has no leadership.
Our D got all the money and yet they haven't done it when it counted, I'm not talking about this season they have always choked they are the best tasting ****.
Last night they proved it again this game should have been won by the D. Madison's lack of control was the last straw he cost the fins the game not Feeley.
There is only two players in O that were here last year what do you expect from these guys. the coach can't decide the starting line or QB till a couple of days before the first game of the season against one of the better teams in the NFL.
Wanny is the problem,I feel bad because he seems like a good guy but it is over.