Poll: Who is your choice for QB?

[mega-fin-love]

I'll go with Matt Moore coupled with a draft pick - maybe Tannehil or Weeden

Peyton Manning is too old.

Matt Flynn isnt better than Matt Moore.

RG3 will cost too many draft picks.

Clearly not the popular answer but I agree with you man. I think Rg3 and Flynn are likely to set us back big time due to them getting way more money/picks then they are worth. I can't argue Peyton that much because of the possibility of instant playoffs/superbowl but agree that he is to old and certainly a stopgap. Moore played well, is costing us nothing, and should be given another year. He was ranked the 12th best Qb last year after being thrown to the wolves with no first team practice and no O-line.

 

[MD]

i like that idea but, im thinking it might be better to sign peyton trade down with our #8 and fill a need and use next years #1 to get a qb, if one is available at our pick.
or possibly trade down our #8 and we get lucky and tannehill falls to us later in the round.

Problem is they won't be in this good of a position to get the future next year. With Peyton Manning at QB they will hopefully draft in late round 1. Another option to keep in mind is the Philbin offense is QB friendly so they don't necessarily need that "elite" QB.

 

[hoops]

i'd rather get manning this year and go into the next draft and pluck a tyler wilson than get manning and still use a top 10 pick this year on tannehill...

i also seriously doubt ireland and ross are gonna show manning a lack of confidence in him to the point that they use a top 10 pick on a qb the same year they acquire manning...especially given the money i think manning if healthy is gonna be thrown at by ross...who i think will make a heavy play financially to make it happen...i think ross is gonna put all his chips on the table to get manning here but i still think he'll come up short if dan snyder gets involved

 

[MD]

i'd rather get manning this year and go into the next draft and pluck a tyler wilson than get manning and still use a top 10 pick this year on tannehill...

I am really torn on Flynn and Manning. To me, Flynn provides the long term upgrade needed. No need to find another QB and they have more money available in FA. Manning is hard to pass on but he puts a limit on additional pieces and is only a 2-3 year guy. Either decision is good but it still is a tough decision.

 

[ckparrothead]

I don't buy that strategy. You're getting Peyton Manning to try and win now. Winning now damages your draft standing in 2013. The only QBs you'll get a crack at in 2013 would be guys with serious flaws, otherwise they'd be drafted higher in a QB-hungry league, especially with the rookie wage scale making the risk/reward profile of top 15 picks more compatible with taking a chance on a QB.

We don't know who is going to be available next year. We don't know where we'll be picking. This year you've got a shot at a 6'4" and 221 lbs player with a really strong arm, at least 75% accuracy if you account for all the drops, so fast and agile he was a team leading wide receiver, extremely intelligent guy that was quite literally coached by your offensive coordinator a few months ago in a pro style offense which you hardly ever see anymore.

I'm sorry but it's pretty rare to get a crack at something like that and you need to pounce on the opportunity instead of casually just saying oh well we will just get so-and-so next year.

 

[hoops]

I am really torn on Flynn and Manning. To me, Flynn provides the long term upgrade needed. No need to find another QB and they have more money available in FA. Manning is hard to pass on but he puts a limit on additional pieces and is only a 2-3 year guy. Either decision is good but it still is a tough decision.

unless philbin is stone cold sold on flynn being a true franchise qb he's nuts not to go after peyton manning...if mannings healthy our outlooks for the near future swing immediately...i mean immediately

i'll take 2-3 years of manning and worry about finding a long term replacement during that time any day...when its the level qb manning is...and you just know that he'll be hungry as hell to show everyone he's still got it...and with peyton manning i wouldn't put it past him to be the same dominant back breaking dagger throwing qb we've known him to be...except we'll be the ones reaping the benefits and enjoying the ride

i like flynn i do i like his talent i think we all know that and i'm not afraid to invest in him financially but if i'm getting peyton manning with a few years left and still having his legs etc i'm taking that chance any day all day...

 

[ckparrothead]

I am really torn on Flynn and Manning. To me, Flynn provides the long term upgrade needed. No need to find another QB and they have more money available in FA. Manning is hard to pass on but he puts a limit on additional pieces and is only a 2-3 year guy. Either decision is good but it still is a tough decision.

The Manning/Tannehill option is very attractive but VERY costly. The Matt Flynn option isn't nearly so costly, IMO. I think it's a good option.

 

[DolfanISS]

I'm Peyton Manning all the way. Getting to watch a healthy Manning for 2 or 3 years after what we've been stuck with for the better part of 12 years is totally worth the risk that comes with it.

 

[hoops]

I don't buy that strategy. You're getting Peyton Manning to try and win now. Winning now damages your draft standing in 2013. The only QBs you'll get a crack at in 2013 would be guys with serious flaws, otherwise they'd be drafted higher in a QB-hungry league, especially with the rookie wage scale making the risk/reward profile of top 15 picks more compatible with taking a chance on a QB.

We don't know who is going to be available next year. We don't know where we'll be picking. This year you've got a shot at a 6'4" and 221 lbs player with a really strong arm, at least 75% accuracy if you account for all the drops, so fast and agile he was a team leading wide receiver, extremely intelligent guy that was quite literally coached by your offensive coordinator a few months ago in a pro style offense which you hardly ever see anymore.

I'm sorry but it's pretty rare to get a crack at something like that and you need to pounce on the opportunity instead of casually just saying oh well we will just get so-and-so next year.

i see what you're sayin and maybe tyler wilson does go top 10 next year and with manning here you end up picking in the 20's or whatever but i'll be floored if ireland and ross get manning to come here with any kind of potential situation where we go ahead and IMMEDIATELY draft his replacement...mannings probably thinking he can play for 5 more years provided his legs stay and mannings a pretty bull headed guy so i see no reason he's thinking i've got 2 years left at this point...i think he thinks he'll still be suitin up at 40

people can say you shouldn't think about the players feelings and all that and most the time i think thats the case but i see ross telling ireland to be a yes man across the board on anything if there's ever a face to face between mannings representation and this miami front office...and i don't see them undermining peyton before he's played his first down for us unless something was to happen medically that changed things b/t when he signed on the dotted line and the draft...i just don't see them wanting manning having to deal with those questions and that over the shoulder stuff from the jump...they'll wait and see him play for a year...thats the way i see it

 

[Daytona Fin]

Problem is they won't be in this good of a position to get the future next year. With Peyton Manning at QB they will hopefully draft in late round 1. Another option to keep in mind is the Philbin offense is QB friendly so they don't necessarily need that "elite" QB.

true that. i cant see ireland paying manning and then using up a 1st on another qb this year. if we get manning and it works out for the good, maybe we can wait 2 years to get a rookie. someone suggested there will be a healthy crop of qbs in that draft, idk.

 

[hoops]

Peyton to the miami front office "and i want reggie wayne to come with me"

ireland and ross to manning "we'll make it work"

ha ha

i see a lot of things goin that route if they ever meet..."whatever you say mr manning"

 

[ckparrothead]

i see what you're sayin and maybe tyler wilson does go top 10 next year and with manning here you end up picking in the 20's or whatever but i'll be floored if ireland and ross get manning to come here with any kind of potential situation where we go ahead and IMMEDIATELY draft his replacement...mannings probably thinking he can play for 5 more years provided his legs stay and mannings a pretty bull headed guy so i see no reason he's thinking i've got 2 years left at this point...i think he thinks he'll still be suitin up at 40

people can say you shouldn't think about the players feelings and all that and most the time i think thats the case but i see ross telling ireland to be a yes man across the board on anything if there's ever a face to face between mannings representation and this miami front office...and i don't see them undermining peyton before he's played his first down for us unless something was to happen medically that changed things b/t when he signed on the dotted line and the draft...i just don't see them wanting manning having to deal with those questions and that over the shoulder stuff from the jump...they'll wait and see him play for a year...thats the way i see it

I think Peyton Manning will not want to hear that the team is going ahead and using that #8 pick to draft his eventual replacement. I think you're right on that. But I have also sensed Peyton perhaps losing some leverage, especially after that report came out revealing that Peyton had a secret surgery to remove more bone spurs in between his May and September 2011 surgeries, and that bone spurs are already forming again and so he'll be needing another surgery at some point.

After that report came out, I sensed that the reason everyone in the Manning camp began to direct their attention at Miami, was because some of his other interest out there dropped off. I wouldn't be surprised if the Arizona Cardinals are really the Dolphins' only other competitors in this thing. I've speculated in the past that Arizona may be more desirable than Miami, but if Peyton doesn't feel that way, then he doesn't really have the leverage to start making decisions based on whether Miami does or does not promise not to use their #8 pick on a quarterback.

I really do sense lost leverage on Peyton's side and so I no longer believe he can afford to make a choice about where he goes based on whether that team promises him they'll not use their 1st rounder on a QB.

 

[hoops]

I think Peyton Manning will not want to hear that the team is going ahead and using that #8 pick to draft his eventual replacement. I think you're right on that. But I have also sensed Peyton perhaps losing some leverage, especially after that report came out revealing that Peyton had a secret surgery to remove more bone spurs in between his May and September 2011 surgeries, and that bone spurs are already forming again and so he'll be needing another surgery at some point.

After that report came out, I sensed that the reason everyone in the Manning camp began to direct their attention at Miami, was because some of his other interest out there dropped off. I wouldn't be surprised if the Arizona Cardinals are really the Dolphins' only other competitors in this thing. I've speculated in the past that Arizona may be more desirable than Miami, but if Peyton doesn't feel that way, then he doesn't really have the leverage to start making decisions based on whether Miami does or does not promise not to use their #8 pick on a quarterback.

I really do sense lost leverage on Peyton's side and so I no longer believe he can afford to make a choice about where he goes based on whether that team promises him they'll not use their 1st rounder on a QB.

first i heard about new bone spurs forming and i don't like that but i think if manning ask for miami not to use the top pick on a qb ross will oblige him...for this year at least...i think ross sees the media buzz etc that a manning provides and the star quality that he'll bring to miami and go above and beyond...

if other teams are dropping out due to medical that does make me nervous...but i've just got this gut feeling that manning is gonna make everyone look foolish for questioning him in 2012...and if he is healthy i love the idea of him doing it in miami

and i and everyone else probably watched that video of manning throwing the ball at duke the other day and i saw albeit grainy footage of a guy to me who looks like he's got an nfl arm...and we've been starving for so long at the position i'm all in...all my chips on the table in

 

[NY8123]

The Manning/Tannehill option is very attractive but VERY costly. The Matt Flynn option isn't nearly so costly, IMO. I think it's a good option.

I'm just so sick of options not panning out. I mean taking a shot and missing is one thing but a decade plus of missing is getting a bit tiring.

I like the position that Miami is in this offseason in terms of what shot they think is right for the club. Moore provides enough maneuvering room that any of the options are relatively low risk this season.

Yeah Manning is high risk long term, due to injury and age but you know Manning is going to be hell bent on showing every single critic that they were dead wrong. The only question is - will he be healthy enough to match his drive? Every NFL team is on level ground when it comes to the Manning decision, they all risk the same amount for the same potential reward.

Flynn isn't proven and still warrants risk but maybe a lower risk than Manning. I trust the coaching staff here, if Philbin decides Flynn is the guy and convinces Ireland and Ross I would certainly stand by the decision. No coach or staff is in better position to know what Flynn's talent level actually is than Miami right now.

The same can be said with the Tannehill situation and Sherman. I have to believe that out of all NFL teams Miami is the most qualified at this point to make the decision on Tannehill and what his value is to Miami.

So given the two inside tracks and the comfort that Moore provides the team, Miami is actually in a good position this season to make a move and I hope make the right move. Next season they are in the same position as all 31 other clubs on the QB front in terms of evaluation. The free agent field is less than desirable and the draft isn't going to be loaded with QB talent.

If they sign Manning they better have a secession plan already in place, he will need an understudy and that isn't going to be Devlin. Manning also better accept a bargain contract if Miami hopes to fill in the rest of the puzzle this offseason. They need a RT, pass rusher and safety pretty badly too.

I have to say, I have a good feeling about this one though and not that homer feeling of a desperation liking. I mean a legit feeling that they finally get it right.

 

[ckparrothead]

first i heard about new bone spurs forming and i don't like that but i think if manning ask for miami not to use the top pick on a qb ross will oblige him...for this year at least...i think ross sees the media buzz etc that a manning provides and the star quality that he'll bring to miami and go above and beyond...

Then Ross is an idiot. Which, unfortunately, is possible.

if other teams are dropping out due to medical that does make me nervous...but i've just got this gut feeling that manning is gonna make everyone look foolish for questioning him in 2012...and if he is healthy i love the idea of him doing it in miami

I have a gut feeling this is going to be a disaster, like when Miami had Dan Marino come back from the same kind of nerve damage and his throwing was highly inconsistent. I think there's a strong possibility that he signs here and doesn't even play in 2012. I think there's also a strong possibility he just doesn't make it through the year, and retires after 2012.

and i and everyone else probably watched that video of manning throwing the ball at duke the other day and i saw albeit grainy footage of a guy to me who looks like he's got an nfl arm...and we've been starving for so long at the position i'm all in...all my chips on the table in

I saw a guy on a practice field making practice throws at practice velocity. I didn't see NFL velocity or trajectory. That 12 yard out route he threw to his left, the ball hung in the air like a hot air balloon. That's picked off in the NFL. Ball was between 35 and 38 miles per hour average velocity. It needs to be at least 45 mile per hour in the NFL on game day or you shouldn't even bother throwing it.

This was video of him at practice, so practice velocity isn't that shocking. Players regularly throw 80% in practices like that. I have no idea if he was just warming up or what. Maybe he was. Or maybe he was maxing out and he still isn't capable of NFL velocity yet. I don't know. I do know the video doesn't change anything. It's not to be taken as a good or bad sign, IMO.