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Odd take. I see nobody that posted above you as being a "homer". In fact, I see plenty of level headed responses. Perhaps I misread what you meant.


No, you didn't misunderstand. Stating what
homers will think. Not that someone here was a homer.
And in the least surprising news of the day here at Finheaven, Dolphin fans get excited by word that 2 of their best defensive players are trending in the right direction, could possibly be ready for opening day and pissy fans immediately feel the need to rain on the parade and call people “homers” simply because they’re keeping a positive outlook on the subject.

How very sad and predictable…

Yet here you are. These reports always come out around this time. Pure speculation on their part
and mine at this point.
 
I think best case scenario for Phillips is a mid October return and for Chubb a mid November return.

We already added Shaq Barrett and we need to add another Edge rusher in FA or the draft just to have 2 decent starters early in the season which still doesnt take any depth into account.
 
Not to be a downer, but I never listen to this stuff. I mean look at Byron Jones, Ezukanma, and a slew of other players. Injury time tables are a crap shoot. I never get excited until I see them in a game.
Was there when Ramsey took the field for the first time and we all know what happened there.
 
"100% healthy by week 1"? Meaning fully healed and rehabbed to 100%? I'd doubt it, but able to play week 1 - yeah I'd think it's possible.

Count me in on that timeline as well. Many thought ...no swore....that Ramsey was done ....for the YEAR. Yeah...no.

Trust the process and modern science. Unless something (negative) unexpected happens I'm hoping for the best.
 
Hopefully they both come back early, but we'll see. Months away.
 
More worried about Chubb than Phillips as my brain had forgotten just how late in the season Chubb’s injury happened.

I expect Phillips to be ready for the season opener, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be unless he has a major setback but Chubb might be week 4 at the earliest but probably week 8 I think.
 
— Returning from an Achilles injury generally takes between six and nine months. Fortson, while playing for Kansas City, returned from an Achilles injury in six months;

— Returning from an ACL injury generally takes between nine and 12 months. Brooks, while playing for Seattle, returned from an ACL injury in eight months.

This is where things take an interesting turn.

If the Dolphins think it’s realistic both Chubb and Phillips are both healthy by opening day, that would mean they only need one more edge rusher, a mid-level guy, in free agency or the draft, someone to go along with recently-signed Shaq Barrett and provide depth. Think of the 2020 version of Andrew Van Ginkel, who had 5 1/2 sacks.

However, if the Dolphins don’t think it’s realistic both will be healthy by opening day, or that one of them won’t be 100% healthy until, say, midseason, that would mean they need a top-level guy, a high-profile free agent or a first- or second-round draft pick to supply additional pass-rushing punch. Think beyond Barrett, to perhaps the 2021 version of Phillips, the rookie who had 8 1/2 sacks.

If you listen to Fortson and Brooks, the optimistic view of the Chubb and Phillips return is realistic.

Let’s do the math.
Phillips, who had 6 1/2 sacks last season, is recovering from an Achilles tendon injury he sustained at the New York Jets on Nov. 24.
If Phillips returns in six months he’ll be back in May.
Chubb, who had 11 sacks last season, is recovering from an ACL injury he sustained at Baltimore on Dec. 31.
If Chubb returns in eight months, he’ll be back in August.
Here’s even better news.
Fortson said he wasn’t just fit to return to practice in a short amount of time, he said he was 100% healthy in a short amount of time.
“I tore my Achilles on Oct. 17 of 2021, and I was back on the field that February, so I kind of felt 100% by OTAs,” he said of the Organized Team Activities that occur in April and proceed through June minicamp.

At the same time, you don’t want to rush either Chubb or Phillips back. And that’s been the Dolphins’ trend with injuries, to give the players ample time. They had that lesson reinforced last season when they admittedly allowed center Connor Williams to return too early. He sustained a setback and had to miss more time.
So there’s sufficient evidence the Dolphins need to be conservative on these returns.
Forston doesn’t have any insight into Phillips’ injury or recovery. But he, such as Dolphins fans, is hoping for the best.
“I’m praying for him in his recovery,” Fortson said. “I hope it works for him.
“It didn’t take that long. I was back running in 4 1/2 months. It didn’t really take that long.”


Nice write up! I just hope they and the players are extremely conservative with all of this and give these players more than enough time to be as healthy as possible.

Let’s not rush anyone!!!

Draft/Sign guys to minimize the desire to rush anyone back.
 
I think best case scenario for Phillips is a mid October return and for Chubb a mid November return.

We already added Shaq Barrett and we need to add another Edge rusher in FA or the draft just to have 2 decent starters early in the season which still doesnt take any depth into account.
And where did you get your PhD? I was walking the day of my ACL surgery and at rehab 3 days later, and I'm no professional athlete.
 
Don't overestimate Chubb. This is his 3rd ACL tear. That's stuff is going to catch up to him eventually. Fortunately, the last tear was his first in that knee.

Phillips is a freak athlete, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him playing tomorrow. 😂
 
Whoa! Dudes, that is great news!

Awesome Sean Penn GIF
 
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