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QBs Drafted to be back ups?

Would a team draft a QB knoiwng the QB will ONLY be a backup?

  • Yes....explain

    Votes: 70 65.4%

  • No....explain

    Votes: 37 34.6%
  • Total voters
    107
  • Poll closed .
When you draft a QB late, you're evaluating probabilities. The guy you're drafting will, in all likelihood, be a backup. You know this. Is there a once in a lifetime chance that he could be the next Brady? Sure, but you don't employ a draft strategy based on looking for that. You draft based on the most likely outcome.
 
arsenal said:
ok forget the position on the depth chart for a second... would you as a GM draft a QB in the 7th round who you think couldn't be a starter in the NFL?
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Absolutely. If I don't have a backup or I want to upgrade the backup position -or even the 3rd QB position - then yes, I would definetly draft one if I felt like that was a need for the team.

This isn't about just the 7th round. Teams draft QBs as backups in earlier rounds than round 7.

Dave Ragone and Stefan Lefors were drafted in later rounds this year as backups. Lefors MAY become a starter one day. But it isn't very likely. Ragone could, but is less likely than Lefors IMO. But both can be caretakers of an offense should a QB go down for a few games. Coaches and GMs know if they are getting a QB who can win games for them with their own ability or if they are simply getting a "caretaker" for their offense should the starter go down.
 
i think its different than other positions.

You need depth at RB, WR, DT etc, because when that player gets tired during a game you can bring in someone fresh. you dont bring in a fresh QB when your starter gets tired. QB is the only position where you dont substitute players.

drafting a RB who cant start still makes sense, maybe he can give you 5 carries a game and play special teams....he may Have to start if there is an injury, but he can still contribute otherwise

drafting a QB who cant start...whats the point? in case of injury?...well if theres an injury then that guy becomes the starter, and thats the only type of contribution he can ever make to the team (besides holding for FGs)

teams can have depth at every other position, but realistically each team only has 1 QB at a time.
 
SCall13 said:
Absolutely. If I don't have a backup or I want to upgrade the backup position -or even the 3rd QB position - then yes, I would definetly draft one if I felt like that was a need for the team.

This isn't about just the 7th round. Teams draft QBs as backups in earlier rounds than round 7.

Dave Ragone and Stefan Lefors were drafted in later rounds this year as backups. Lefors MAY become a starter one day. But it isn't very likely. Ragone could, but is less likely than Lefors IMO. But both can be caretakers of an offense should a QB go down for a few games. Coaches and GMs know if they are getting a QB who can win games for them with their own ability or if they are simply getting a "caretaker" for their offense should the starter go down.
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so you want a backup who doesn't have starter talent? wow... not me, if my QB goes down i wnat a guy who can play inthe NFL and lead a team, not a guy who i know isn't capable of being a QB in this league...
 
Nobody looks for QBs who lack the talent to start, but the physical portion is only part of the equation. The bigger part of the equation is the mental part. That is harder to measure. So you take a guy late and hope that the reasons that caused him to be a late rd pick can be corrected or overcome, but you know he will most likely be a backup.
 
ok forget the position on the depth chart for a second... would you as a GM draft a QB in the 7th round who you think couldn't be a starter in the NFL?

Tough call, if the QB in question fell due circumstances beyond his control I might.
 
arsenal said:
so you want a backup who doesn't have starter talent? wow... not me, if my QB goes down i wnat a guy who can play inthe NFL and lead a team, not a guy who i know isn't capable of being a QB in this league...
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In the 7th round?
You're talking perfect world solutions. It isn't a perfect world. Teams KNOW that the odds of grabbing starting caliber QBs in the later rounds are slim. But they do know that getting a decent backup is possible. So yes, they do draft them for that purpose. It happens all the time. If teams thought they could get sure thing starting caliber QBs in the later rounds, then there wouldn't be the usual pre draft clamour of which top notch QB would be going when and where. It would be a non-issue because there would be so many in rounds 4-7 (where most of the back up QBs come from.)
 
JTBRLZ said:
You shouldn't really draft a player if your best expectations are for him to be a career back-up.
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I disagree to an extent..

Yes, you shouldnt draft one in round 1 or 2 if you knew they would be a career backup, BUT, from 3 on I would definatly draft a QB if he was going to be a solid back up..

A good back up QB is needed in the NFL, I mean look what happened to us with Ray Lucas... eeesh..

So I voted yes
 
arsenal said:
so you want a backup who doesn't have starter talent? wow... not me, if my QB goes down i wnat a guy who can play inthe NFL and lead a team, not a guy who i know isn't capable of being a QB in this league...
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Thats why I look at this in a different way.. I see it as taking someone who you know will not be a starting NFL quarterback but if needed can step in from the back up role and be solid.. thats what I would expect from a backup
 
IMO all draft picks are picked with the hope that they can be groomed into a player with starting talent. Whether or not they start is another thing. A season can be ruined if your qb goes down and you have to bring in someone that sucks (Lucas) Scouts are just as irrogant as some players. They like to think that someone has the talent in later rounds to become a starter in this league if for instance he can learn from a Marino, Elway, Manning.
 
AZfinfan said:
IMO all draft picks are picked with the hope that they can be groomed into a player with starting talent. Whether or not they start is another thing. A season can be ruined if your qb goes down and you have to bring in someone that sucks (Lucas) Scouts are just as irrogant as some players. They like to think that someone has the talent in later rounds to become a starter in this league if for instance he can learn from a Marino, Elway, Manning.
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There is no question that coaches hope every pick turns into a good/great player. But the reality is, that simply doesn't happen. Coaches, scouts, and GMs know that all QBs aren't starting material. But that doesn't stop them from drafting them to be servicable backups who can manage a game. All QBs do not have the talent to be a difference maker type QB - no matter how much time the coaches put into them. Some have it - some don't. The ones that do not are the ones who are drafted to be backups.
 
I voted yes to the threads original question. The example of a team only drafting a QB to be a backup and not a starter is Atlanta in 2004. They drafted Schaub in the 3rd round not to replace Vick as starter, but to be his backup.
 
Eshlemon said:
I voted yes to the threads original question. The example of a team only drafting a QB to be a backup and not a starter is Atlanta in 2004. They drafted Schaub in the 3rd round not to replace Vick as starter, but to be his backup.
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Another excellent example.
 
i still think the problem with this is you guys are just looking at teams depth charts and not the players talent level... matt shaub if hes on the cardinals is probably a starter, but he ends up on atlanta and hes a backup...

but talent wise he has starter skill level... and thats why atlanta would draft him...

again what team wants a backup that cant play in the NFL and have any kind of success, your just asking for trouble
 
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