Question about Linehan's style

[Fin Fan in Cali]

WHy? What so far fetched about what I said? McMicheal is a threat he will use, but his success came because of Moss and Culpepper. The hardest combo to defend in the NFL.

I think he will step up to the challenge, and get the most talent of the receivers he has. Brown will be a threat out of the back field to run, and catch. If we go with 2 and 3 TE sets, then, it will a lot harder for the defense to key on where the play is going. the offense won't have all the pressure this year, beacuse I have a feeling our defense will be scoring some points next year.

 

[popularwar]

I have to admit that I've not seen much of Minnesota's offense under him, but know that they didn't have great RBs in the backfield.

That's just not true, have you ever seen Michael Bennett play? They might not have Tomlinson or Dillon in the backfield but they had some true studs there, even onterio smith before he decided to be a moron and get suspended.

 

[jlfin]

WHy? What so far fetched about what I said? McMicheal is a threat he will use, but his success came because of Moss and Culpepper. The hardest combo to defend in the NFL.

Culpepper is the most over rated QB in the league (next to Vick). He doesn't protect the football. Let's see how good he is this year without Moss to throw to.
Fact is, you are basing your opinions about the O-line on last year. I would put Miami's young talent on the O-line over any other team in the AFC East. They have the greatest upside in the division.
With respect to Moss, no other team has a player like him , including Buffalo.

 

[jlfin]

That's just not true, have you ever seen Michael Bennett play? They might not have Tomlinson or Dillon in the backfield but they had some true studs there, even onterio smith before he decided to be a moron and get suspended.

They are above average, but I wouldn't exactly call them studs. I'd take Brown, RW and Lamar Gordon any day.

 

[BillsChamps2oo5]

We have nothing close to duante but overall our wr's/rb/te is better than minny's.

Moss > Chambers (who for arguments sake is miamis #1)
Burelson = Booker
Boston > Marcus Robinson
McMichael > Wiggins
Kleinsasser > Donald Lee/Sammy Morris
RW> Bennett
Ronnie is likely > Mewelde Moore...or at least better be better than Mewelde Moore.

Conversely Im very anxious to see what Minny's guys do without an offense as simplistic as linehan's.

I mean, I think you guys have TONS of talent. IM not going to be some stupid Bills poster on here.

BUT, you guys know, Im sure, that Moss changes everything. He take 2 sometimes 3 defenders out of the play every single play.

I love Chambers skills, but TO doesnt even have what Moss has. Add Culpepper, who scrambled A LOT in this system, not all by design, and you really cant go wrong as a CoOrdinator.

Moss was that offense. Culpepper is top 3, in terms of trying to defend QB's.

I Know the Fins have way more talent than Baltimore, but Brian Billick hasnt had near the offensive success since he left.

 

[BillsChamps2oo5]

Culpepper is the most over rated QB in the league (next to Vick). He doesn't protect the football. Let's see how good he is this year without Moss to throw to.

You Agree than. Your saying Culpepper is good because of Moss, but than whats that make Linehan?

 

[Hummer23]

Without Moss and Culpepper, Linehan is a huge question mark. I could call plays with Moss and DC.

You have nothing close to Moss and DC, and nothing close to that OL.

The offense did great last year when Moss got hurt and the offense did great when Culpepper was hurt so I don't know what you're talking about.:shakeno:

 

[Hummer23]

You Agree than. Your saying Culpepper is good because of Moss, but than whats that make Linehan?

Don't forget Favre and Culpepper is underated

 

[Hummer23]

Linehan will try to stretch the field kind of like Norv did when he was OC

 

[fishfan34]

Yeah, you said it perfectly, Moss and DC are better than any WR/QB we have, however, their offensive line is NOT any better than what we have and their coaching surely isn't, and, as a complete offense, I belive our offensive is more talented coming into this season than was there's.

 

[PHINZONER]

Without Moss and Culpepper, Linehan is a huge question mark. I could call plays with Moss and DC.

You have nothing close to Moss and DC, and nothing close to that OL.

Hey I may be wrong here, but I would guess that Chris Carter knows the talent level of Moss better than anybody and I will venture to say he knows the talent level of Chambers better than any Bills fan or any Fin fan for that matter. He seems to believe that CC can put up Moss type #s w/this offense and w/Gus throwing the ball! He loves CC and his abilities.

Well, Burelson,Robinson, or Cambell are not CC in any way. They still put up good #s w/o Moss in the game! DC went down and the WIARD OF GUS stepped in and stole the spotlight! I know, I hate the Vikes as much as I love the Fins', and I hated watching them do so well. Most fans (90%)here in Viking country wanted to see Gus remain the starter as well as some of the players(MOSS).

 

[BillsChamps2oo5]

The offense did great last year when Moss got hurt and the offense did great when Culpepper was hurt so I don't know what you're talking about.:shakeno:

Are your sure??

Moss got hurt in the Saints game and wasnt healthy until the Jags game.

During these 5 games, Culpepper threw for under 200 yards twice against very bad Pass defenses.

They averaged well over 400 Yards a game in offense in the games Moss started.

Without him, the were around 300. The only game they did anything like they did with Moss, was against Green Bay, who had no CB's, and their defense sucked anyways.

Without Moss, They went from top 3 offense to an offense that would have been around 21 overall.

Also, Culpepper only missed 2 games in 03 and none last year. Those games were against very very bad teams. SF and Atlanta.

 

[PHINZONER]

WHy? What so far fetched about what I said? McMicheal is a threat he will use, but his success came because of Moss and Culpepper. The hardest combo to defend in the NFL.

As said by the Packers D cord. He said that Burrelson is as much a threat as Moss and that they would cover him the same as Moss. So it is the threat of the deep ball on 1st,2nd,3rd and even 4th sometimes that opens things up! Moss is far better than Nate but the only constant was the offensive philosophy.

Minny had good rbs' but not of the caliber that the Fins have! The TE pos. is far better than in Minny. The D is what hurt Minn. and that is our strength.

Holt has better #s' than Moss, and Harrison/ Manning is the hardest to defend w/Bulger and Holt and McNabb and TO close behind. Moss and DC were good but DC had way to many turnovers, better last year, but Moss was sick of DC's inability to hit him in stride and at the right time.

 

[PHINZONER]

That's just not true, have you ever seen Michael Bennett play? They might not have Tomlinson or Dillon in the backfield but they had some true studs there, even onterio smith before he decided to be a moron and get suspended.

Moe Williams was a horse, and they decided to go w/ youth and speed. When they really needed a short TD or a 1st down, in came "MOE"
He is way underappreciated by all fans other than Vike fans and even some of those.

 

[PHINZONER]

Culpepper is the most over rated QB in the league (next to Vick). He doesn't protect the football. Let's see how good he is this year without Moss to throw to.
Fact is, you are basing your opinions about the O-line on last year. I would put Miami's young talent on the O-line over any other team in the AFC East. They have the greatest upside in the division.
With respect to Moss, no other team has a player like him , including Buffalo.

Moss expressed his frustrastion w/DC and his lob ball that always was up for grabs. Moss liked Gus's deep ball better and w/o Moss to win those jump balls, Vikes' and DC's #'s will suffer!!!!!