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RB Jaylen Wright

True. But moot means the opposite of what you think.

Moot= needing further debate
(In court of law) moot= needing further debate than feasible in court, therefore neither argument can be take into consideration
Moot also means: having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision.
 
lol you believe this guy blocked me? college football aficianado couldnt handle a logical explanation for why jaylen wrights a better pick than any crap lineman available

He & I had a convo this past weekend. He thought my calling him serious was a compliment... it wasn't.

The Wright pick was a good one & better than any OL taken in Rd 4
 
Ridiculous to say any of those OL are better than Wright. Jacob Monk, smh. Keegan and Nourzad same. Buffalo doesn't have a starting center, we do, I like van Pran but he's not better than an all-SEC running back.

You sound so bitter when you knock this team for not drafting OL up and down this draft. We got a very good player and a lot more depth at positions that are more important than IOL.
Take your lemon party somewhere else, the bashing before you even see these guys play is irritating. Go root for a team that drafts four OL every year, you'll be a lot happier

Sounds like you have crossed paths with a "Lemming". - LOL

Give 'em H*l*". - LOL
 
He & I had a convo this past weekend. He thought my calling him serious was a compliment... it wasn't.

The Wright pick was a good one & better than any OL taken in Rd 4
I know it wasn’t a compliment but I’m glad to see I’m still on your mind 4 days later.

I think it’s time to move on
 
IMO anybody saying they didn't want any developmental players, doesn't understand the draft. Every pick is a developmental player. On average only about 1/3 of 1st round picks play more than 300 snaps. And I expect that Chop will almost assuredly be in that 1/3 while there's a strong chance that Paul will end up playing quite a bit too. We might even get 150-200 snaps from Wright (not including STs).
I have a similar take. This draft shows Grier's confidence.

As Dolphins fans, over the years, we've seen the build for now approach with some success, but mostly failures.

I remember reading that Jimmy Johnson had almost traded for Peyton Manning. It was the year the team drafted Patrick Surtain and Kenny Mixon, among others.

Can you imagine Manning following Marino? Wouldn't you have traded that draft for Manning? Look how long it took Miami to find a competent quarterback after Marino.

Instead of Fielder and Ricky Williams, you'd have Manning and Williams and perhaps a real shot at the super bowl.

This isn't meant to slander Jimmy Johnson, just that he ultimately decided to draft for the now and not a few years down the road.

Doesn't mean Grier's draft strategy will work out. But Paul could be the long-term answer for Armstead at left tackle etc.

Looks like Grier is building/restocking on the run.
 
Sedrick Van Pran (C Georgia)
Jacob Monk (C Duke)
Trevor Keegan (G Michigan)
Hunter Nourzad (C Penn St)

Any of those guys would have had a chance to play or even start. You’re the umpteenth person to claim Wright will impact this year but none of those OL I just listed won’t. How do you know? Rookie running backs get banged up and stay banged up… as you just mentioned with Achane.

If I were to say Wright won’t rush for 400 yards and 5 scores this year you and others would tell me how stupid and ridiculous I am and you’d be asking where’s my crystal ball. But that’s a 2 way street. Again… how do you know?

For the record… want to know what those 4 OL I listed have in common? A couple things… they all could play Center or Guard which offers positional versatility which is highly valuable for a team whose weakness is the OL. You could have potentially fixed 2 spots with one pick from any of those guys.

The other thing they have in common… look at the teams they were drafted by…

Sedrick Van Pran- Buffalo
Jacob Monk- GB
Trevor Keegan- Philly
Hunter Nourzad- KC

Want to know what all 4 of those teams have in common? The last time we played any of the 4… they beat us including Buffalo and KC who each beat us 2 last year. Philly literally has a reputation for drafting OL bc they know what they’re doing. You going to tell me Philly is wrong when they’ve proven they draft and develop top level OL?

How about KC who’s drafted Creed Humphrey 63rd overall (1 pick from 3rd round) and Trey Smith I believe was a 5th round pick. Yet they both start for the reigning 2 time SB champs. Philly always has a top 5 OL.

All 4 (Buffalo/KC/Philly/GB) are playoff teams from last year and all 4 are basically playoff level teams almost every year. But no the Miami Dolphins know better than those 4 front offices. Just smh
You can look at drafts over the last 10 years to quickly find that productive rookie RBs are constantly found in the later rounds and that it doesn't happen nearly as often for offensive lineman. It happens for sure but the odds of finding a late round RB that make positive contributions are much higher than a late round guard and I don't even know if it's debatable to be honest.

The players you listed might hit in year 1 or they might not, obviously no one knows for sure but you continuing to say that doesn't mean anything. Historically, the odds favor Wright helping this team much more than any of the guards you listed. Wright will get plenty of snaps and plenty of touches this year unless he gets hurt. A fourth round guard likely won't get any snaps unless he wins the backup role and the starter gets hurt.
 
You can look at drafts over the last 10 years to quickly find that productive rookie RBs are constantly found in the later rounds and that it doesn't happen nearly as often for offensive lineman. It happens for sure but the odds of finding a late round RB that make positive contributions are much higher than a late round guard and I don't even know if it's debatable to be honest.

The players you listed might hit in year 1 or they might not, obviously no one knows for sure but you continuing to say that doesn't mean anything. Historically, the odds favor Wright helping this team much more than any of the guards you listed. Wright will get plenty of snaps and plenty of touches this year unless he gets hurt. A fourth round guard likely won't get any snaps unless he wins the backup role and the starter gets hurt.
I don’t understand how the 4th round is considered a “late” round pick. I understand for 6th and 7th round guys but all those I listed went after our pick in the 4th and I believe 3 of those were 5th rounders.

You and others can continue to harp that Wright will be more impactful and that’s fine but again… you don’t know that just like I don’t. He could pull a hammy or anything and it keep him out. He could have trouble learning the playbook. He may not be even an average pass blocker. I mean none of us know.

I also haven’t continued to say anything. If you read the thread I’ve been challenged to name guys. I didn’t just throw them up here I responded with the answer when challenged.

They’re also plenty of examples of guys being drafted in the 4th or 5th round on the OL that start from day 1. That’s where our front office and scouts have to do their homework and find the right one. They chose to ignore it completely so that’s fine bc they’re making the call not any of us. Our job is to be fans and state why we think it’s right or wrong. People have lost their minds bc I didn’t agree with every pick they made.

Again… the teams that drafted those 4 I listed are all playoff teams who beat us. So all of you know none of those guys will be a factor but the Eagles/Bills/Chiefs/Packers thought they were worthy so how can you question any of those teams when the proof is in the pudding? They win… and they’ve proven to at least be able to make playoffs consistently and actually win a playoff game… something we haven’t done since 2000.

Again… if most of you like Wright over an OL then so be it… but yall keep stating that Wright will impact from day 1 and none of those OL will and yall state it like it’s fact. You don’t know anymore than I do.

For the record as I said in an earlier post… KC drafted Trey Smith in the 5th round and he’s been their starting guard ever since. Now that’s cherry picking one guy to prove a point but as I’ve said for Robinson and others… Smith is the exception not the rule bc for every Trey Smith theys 1000 others you’ve never heard of. My point is they’re examples to back both theories.

I just would have preferred to at least take a swing on a guy that plays the position of our biggest need. Bc if Tua goes down bc of an OL issue you me and everybody else here will be screaming why didn’t we draft an OL to fill that spot. But if Tua goes down for longer than a couple game our season is over and everyone here knows it.
 
I think the more reps you watch the more you think his success and 7.4 Sec leading Ypc average is not scheme related, 28 mins of strait reps showcasing all kinds of skills.. lateral agility doesn’t seem to be a problem, hands? Yup they good.

 
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