Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by J. David Wannyheimer, Oct 31, 2017.
Rb Smith was stashed on the practice team. He's a Michigan product.
That's a valid point..Damn didn't even think about it. I bet he passes this one but the Eagles will see damage. They may be happy to rent him out for 1-3 years. He just makes more sense with them. He better change his damn attitude and quickly. If the Eagles are happy with their RB not practicing throughout the week, good for them. Makes sense why he didn't know the plays and missed assignments. He didn't practice them lol
Daniel Thomas is available for his forth dolphins stint lol
I'd see what the bengals want for Jeremy Hill.
Perry to me is a clone of Ajayi in terms of size and speed. He played for Gase in Chicago and he knows the offense. He had a couple of good plays during the preseason but we all know that preseason is not the regular season.
Very well said. Sucks today. But if I have to pick between Adam Gase right now, or any player on that offense that's averaging 13 points a game, I'm rolling with Gase.
Thanks brother!! It does suck today. Anytime you don't get a known commodity for another, it does make it harder to understand. Gase has every right and reason to get rid of ANY player that isn't performing up to his duties. Exactly!! With Ajayi, we're the worst offense. All great coaches make a stand when needed and Gase had no choice. It will hurt today but we will all be Dolphin fans and no one player can change the years we put into loving this team. Gase=Authority. I'll take a coach who doesn't bow to his players.
Anyone know who you the F/A RB’s are for 2018?
Josh Adams looks legit
No disrespect but can’t believe Dolphins just giving RB duties to Kenyan Drake, Damien Williams, Senorise Perry - none proven. #4pmdeadline
Horrific. This is taking me back to the days of Travis Minor and Lamar Gordon trying to replace Ricky lmao.
The guy I was kind of hoping we'd give a try back when he was released by the Seahawks was Alex Collins. Ironically, he was a key component of our getting blasted by the Ravens, which led to Ajay being traded, since our formerly excellent run defense had, for what it's worth, helped protect our terrible pass defense all year long.
DRAKE WILL SHINE!
Bigger problem is that our SOS is like 4th toughest in the league right now. We end up tied with 4 other teams we're going to be picking last out of the 4 in the 1st round.
Hard to judge Jay with this line we have.
I think Drake should take over as the featured back.He was a third round pick just 2 seasons ago.also has little wear and tear on him.
I agree. I think Drake takes over for Ajayi, Williams keeps his role and Perry takes over for Drake.
The depth chart shows Williams, Drake, Perry.
I'm sure its all subject to change, but I agree, I think Drake is more of bellcow (did I just say that? lol) than Williams....
Maybe Perry will get some work too.
I'm hoping these guys come out and shock the world on sunday
I just don't see Williams getting a bigger role. He's not good. He does well as a pass catcher but I don't think he can take over as the primary back. It will clearly be more of a committee and there will be more RB substitutions for sure. I have Elliott on my fantasy tram, so I need a new RB. Not much out there. Trying to decide which I want more. Thoughts? I think even if Williams starts off with an increased role, he'll blow it. Drake has an opportunity that he needs to take advantage of.
I would stay away from the Fins sadly.
That said, I think FF wise, Williams probably has a better chance to find the endzone on a wheel route out of the backfield.
I'm really curious to see what we do on sunday.
stepping back off the ledge we all know rb's are a dime a dozen, ajayi was a 5th rounder himself (albeit due to injury concerns). look at the kid who wrecked us thursday from baltimore, or the kid from kc. hopefully we can use that 4th round pick on a halfway decent Olinemen.
throw it 60 times and if moor and cutler die back there, here comes the wildcat with gray running the show
If they hit the &#$”@$! hole we will have a chance.
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The Dolphins RB committee is Kenyan Drake and Damien Williams. That's it.
Welp... guess no Perry- not a fan of this but will see.
Funny you mention that.
Daniel Thomas was actually more productive than Ajayi when it come to TD's
Thomas - 13 TD's on 464 touches
Ajayi - 9 TD's on 513 touches
I don't remember all of this moaning and groaning when Thomas and his 13 TD's left.
Not only does this obviously hurt our RB depth but worth a mention is how we will not be able to utilize Drake on special teams anymore...
And I'm not even talking about as a returner....
He is our best gunner by far imo...
I have had days to sleep on this decision and I am still sick to my stomach...
If we flushed a 5th down the toilet for Stephone Anthony then how exactly are we supposed to be happy about garnering a 4th for our most productive / best offensive player (Again My Opinion).
Yes he struggled as a receiver, yes he did not pick up the blitz very well, yes it made us somewhat predictable...
But we rod him last season to our first playoff appearance in 8 seasons....
And now he is gone...
Garbage TD's on the goal line for a perennial backup over like 4 seasons vs a bonafide stud #1 who had almost 5 a tote last season and we rod him into the playoffs after 3 200+ yard games...
Yards from scrimmage are almost the same also. And Ajayi had a QB that could throw down field last year. Something Thomas rarely had the pleasure of playing with.
Also look at the effect of those so called garbage TD's. Many of them provide the winning margin including a couple games I attended.
Where is Jonas gray when you need him
O td's this year plus an unwillingness to to practice and learn the plays. Couple that with a poor attitude and low shelf life. He is replaceable.
Ha ha that one is funny. But Gray only helped one game. lol
Thomas spread his good out to benefit us in more games.
It's funny to see all the post that kind of say good riddance now. Pointing out all the flaws he had and blaming him for the offensive woes this year. Now that he's not wearing the aqua and orange, he's a cancer and not that valuable. Two weeks ago he was a beast.
I wish him well and hope Philly goes a long way with him. I doubt we make the playoffs, so I'll root for Philly to advance from the NFC because Jay is on their team.
I never went that far. But his career stats are very comparable to Daniel Thomas who everyone hated.
Ajayi rise to fame coincided with Ryan Tannehill's backing off the defenses with his command of the deep ball. Without it this year he was just like Daniel Thomas. If some of you can't see that you need to get another sport. The Thread should really be "Replacing Ryan Tannehill"
Come on, 71, do you really think Daniel Thomas brought the same things to the team that Ajayi did? I accept that we moved on from Ajayi because of things that happened behind the scenes, but let's not pretend he didn't bring a lot of positive when he carried the ball.
I don't wish him well at all. I wish he had pulled his head out of his ***, because he'd still be a Miami Dolphin, and he could help us win some games.
I'm here for the laundry, not for the players. The only exception to that rule for me is players who have given us many years of great service that the team decides to move on from. If Cam Wake still wants to keep playing football and the Dolphins decide to move on from him, I will be rooting my *** off for him to get a ring as long as he doesn't knock us out of contention in the process. But I ain't out there rooting for Billy Turner to have a great career with the Broncos.
No Thomas could never finish the game like Ajayi did for us last year. Those 4th quarter yards were big. We will certainly miss that. Doesn't really matter this year without a QB who can back the defense off.
If you remember I was the one who was complaining about the Lazor offense before everyone grabbed pitch forks. I kept saying we needed to take some deeps shots to change what teams were doing to us. Everyone laughed and said how do you do that without having time. Ryan figured out how to last year and our run game magically took off. Now without Ryan we are back to where we were with Lazor and Ryan throwing short.
Ajayi benefited greatly from Ryan's improved play. Anyone can spin it however they want. But i don't see Ajayi improving Cutler's or Moore's game this year like Ryan improved Jay's last year.
On that last point, I would add that Ajayi was not taking his responsibilities in the passing game seriously -- and I mean, *really* not taking them seriously -- so there's more to it than that. When teams saw Ajayi on the field, they knew that they should play the run or play action, because we certainly weren't going to be using him for anything else.
Daniel Thomas was a joke and also benefited from a superior O-line if we really want to start comparisons....
How about broken tackles?
How about yards after contact?
How about rushes over 10+ Yards, 20+ Yards, 50+ Yards, etc...
How about 100 yards games...
How about 200 yard games...
How about Pro Bowl appearances...
Go do some actual homework instead of just google career stats...
Stats are for losers anyways guy...
Any RB is replaceable.......
But usually your RB is not the best player on the team. In our case he was (My Opinion).
So you want to trade arguably your best player for the reasoning you cited......
Fine, go and get me at least a 3rd or a player who can help this season, etc...
Don't deal him for a 4th when you know we probably wont even hit on that pick and we just flushed a 5th down the toilet for Anthony...
It's so easy to poke holes in this trade...
Because it was ABSURD!!
they said and gase even said all offseason how much ajayi was putting in the work to be a complete and 3 down back...how many strides he had made in the passing game etc.
if this stuff wasn't being tossed out prior to the trade and if said sources weren't talking about how Miami was considering making a change with ajayi then I would discard the sources...
Daniel Thomas is always available lol.
lol, says the guy that just reeled off a bunch of stats for the basis of his post.