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Report: Dolphins players may have harassed team staffer

If he hadn't been warned multiple times in the past based on what we know about his past then we've got much bigger issues than Richie. I have faith in Philbin and his staff though that he was indeed formally warned.

I have no faith in Joe Philbin or his staff on matters related to football, but my guess is that this is indeed one of the things that was mentioned when the Dolphins initially leaked that they were 'fed up' with Richie and that this was the last straw.
 
The excuse making for Incognito around here is truly incredible sometimes. It literally doesn't matter what the guy does, does it? The guy can get kicked off of multiple teams for bad behavior, sexually assault volunteers at team functions, send threatening and harassing voicemails, harass team employees about their race including making insulting comments about their wife... yet it's always the other guy who just wants money and needs to grow a pair.

It's beyond parody. It's beyond what parents do to excuse their own stupid children. It's like a real life version of Monty Python's Dead Parrot sketch.

[video=youtube;npjOSLCR2hE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE[/video]

Amen brother

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Anything being leaked will be merely a fraction. Again, why do you think Martin was so content to appear in public one day after his testimony? Somehow that angle was ignored while all the frothing geniuses here were happily mocking him for the 900th time. Martin was obviously pleased at the way his version was received, and satisfied that a thorough investigation would follow. If so, it would verify his claims.

BTW, I got a kick out of the post in this thread whining about creating a society in which no responsibility is placed on the person being bullied to stop the harassment. Once again you guys produce parody caliber material without any recognition at all. I honestly don't know how most of these comments make it beyond the self filter.

The responsibility is to report it up the chain of command. Unfortunately we still have countless venues in which that chain will look the other way, run by pathetic types like the ones we've heard from so frequently in this matter.

I personally believe the first avenue of conflict resolution is direct confrontation. Unfortunately there are a lot of simpletons out there that watch too many movies and think this automatically means punching someone or physically fighting them (Ireland is among these people, evidently). That's not implied at all. Confrontation does not mean fighting, it does not mean punching, it does not mean anything physical or even anything emotional. It means dialogue. Confronting your problems directly is something that needs to be part of this chain of options that you speak of, because direct dialogue is the easiest way to resolve the conflict and come to a better understanding. This isn't the movies. The "bully" is not always going to say "Or you'll do WHAT exactly?" if you confront him or her on the behavior you don't like. I honestly do think there is lost appreciation for the virtues of direct confrontation and dialogue in dealing with problems. After that, absolutely the responsibility is to report it up the chain of command.

Now on the other hand, when the actions taken by someone are so egregious obviously you might feel the need to go above their head immediately. I think the incident at the charity golf event fits that description.
 
Nobody knows the context of this...we are also believing a Jason Cole story. I am not ready to do that.

That's fine , but why do you need to defend Richie? He is a child in a man's body who has no self control and everything he does he has to take responsibility for...my issue is how could this FO let Richie be in a leadership position....that's what blows my mind in this mess in Miami.....
 
I personally believe the first avenue of conflict resolution is direct confrontation.

As much as I detest Richie and what he's brought upon this organization, I still feel that in the "BullyGate" incident, Jon Martin handled the situation in the worst and most unethical fashion possible. If he truly has severe depression and mental illness, then that's one thing -- I can forgive him for that. But if this is what I think it is, I got no more respect for that man than Richie.

And I'm sorry, but seeing him yuk it up on the Stanford sideline as he finishes every sentence with "Hey I still want to play football, I swear" WHILE HE IS STILL ON THE DOLPHINS TEAM PAYROLL is just absurd.

Am I the only one who keeps expecting to wake up halfway through this affair and wonder what the **** I had to drink last night to have dreamed this up?
 
I personally believe the first avenue of conflict resolution is direct confrontation. Unfortunately there are a lot of simpletons out there that watch too many movies and think this automatically means punching someone or physically fighting them (Ireland is among these people, evidently). That's not implied at all. Confrontation does not mean fighting, it does not mean punching, it does not mean anything physical or even anything emotional. It means dialogue. Confronting your problems directly is something that needs to be part of this chain of options that you speak of, because direct dialogue is the easiest way to resolve the conflict and come to a better understanding. This isn't the movies. The "bully" is not always going to say "Or you'll do WHAT exactly?" if you confront him or her on the behavior you don't like. I honestly do think there is lost appreciation for the virtues of direct confrontation and dialogue in dealing with problems. After that, absolutely the responsibility is to report it up the chain of command.

Now on the other hand, when the actions taken by someone are so egregious obviously you might feel the need to go above their head immediately. I think the incident at the charity golf event fits that description.

I agree in a normal work environment, but a football locker room? Stepping up to someone can get u killed....how do you think Richie would react if someone came up to him and said they didn't appreciate how he was talking to them?
 
Who does not have a Todd Packer or a Michael from the Office at their place of work? I don't want people to be harassed at work, but at the same time this story is getting so overblown.

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Do you think racial jokes in the locker room are good for team dynamics?

If they are used to intimidate someone..no!

If the people have a relationship and are joking with each other it is absolutely fine.

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There must be a lot of people offended by Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Chris Rock stand up routines.
 
My God...please...anybody that has never used a off color joke before,please stand up.......be truthful now.
 
I agree in a normal work environment, but a football locker room? Stepping up to someone can get u killed....how do you think Richie would react if someone came up to him and said they didn't appreciate how he was talking to them?

In public, or in private?

I expect him to act like an adult. Because that's what he is. If he does anything improper or physical, you can take the appropriate measures against him (report to employer, file charges, file restraining order, etc.).
 
In public, or in private?

I expect him to act like an adult. Because that's what he is. If he does anything improper or physical, you can take the appropriate measures against him (report to employer, file charges, file restraining order, etc.).

I agree the golf incident is bad. That in a sense is different the Martin complaints or the Cole story in terms of the behavior.

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My God...please...anybody that has never used a off color joke before,please stand up.......be truthful now.

Or heard one and did not flip out.
 
In public, or in private?

I expect him to act like an adult. Because that's what he is. If he does anything improper or physical, you can take the appropriate measures against him (report to employer, file charges, file restraining order, etc.).
I can't argue against that at all. In fact last season Philbin was preaching about being a professional and doing your job. If these guys had just done what Philbin had supposedly expected (unless that only applies to keeping the floor clean?) then there is no way we have this conversation today.
 
Sorry, I won't stick up for players who are making ethnic jokes about non-football staffers and their wives. Not appropriate. It may be appropriate between players who have a sort of brotherhood, but not when directed at regular employees.

I bet the other clown was Pouncey.
 
This is becoming so f'in boring. "Look at me, I was harassed too. Look at me". Go f yourself.
 
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