Reshad Jones suspended 4 games.

[Zounds]

Excuse my ignorance. A number of NFL players have failed the test because of adderall. I have seen some reports that it helps the brain focus. I have seen others that it is a powerful sexual enhancer. I have seen others suggesting that it's used as a masking agent to hide steroids. What is the most likely reason that the players are getting caught taking it? Is it also the PED that trapped Reshad Jones?

Adderall is not a masking agent, but it is an appetite suppressant, can make you focus more, and could potentially help during a cutting phase for quick body fat loss.

Bodybuilding 101: You cant build muscle without adding fat in the bulking phase, and after the bulking phase, weight lifters often go into the cutting phase to lose some of that body fat they acquired during bulking (while keeping the muscle) and they can do that much faster using some of these stimulants. As for the people assuming that Reshad Jones and Dion Jordan were using steroids, it is very possible that they tested positive for stimulants. Most of the items on the NFL list of banned stimulants and masking agents are items you can buy at your local GNC store. Every serious lifter has to use some kind of stimulant.

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Im sure that's what happens but when it comes to some type of roids Im sure these players are not asking the trainers. Lets quit blaming trainers for what players are deciding to do on their own. These trainers don't live with them

Definitely not the trainer's fault. Its on the players to read labels and ask questions. Every player has been made aware of the banned substance list on multiple occasions. Its up to them to know what goes in their body, especially when training away from the team during the offseason.

 

[dlockz]

Adderall is not a masking agent, but it is an appetite suppressant, can make you focus more, and could potentially help during a cutting phase for quick body fat loss.

Bodybuilding 101: You cant build muscle without adding fat in the bulking phase, and after the bulking phase, weight lifters often go into the cutting phase to lose some of that body fat they acquired during bulking (while keeping the muscle) and they can do that much faster using some of these stimulants. As for the people assuming that Reshad Jones and Dion Jordan were using steroids, it is very possible that they tested positive for stimulants. Most of the items on the NFL list of banned stimulants and masking agents are items you can buy at your local GNC store. Every serious lifter has to use some kind of stimulant.

Its also even more possible that esp Jordan was using a roid or a masker esp since the change in his body. Regardless he tried to cheat the system and got caught , there is a reason these are banned

 

[dlockz]

Adderall is not a masking agent, but it is an appetite suppressant, can make you focus more, and could potentially help during a cutting phase for quick body fat loss.

Bodybuilding 101: You cant build muscle without adding fat in the bulking phase, and after the bulking phase, weight lifters often go into the cutting phase to lose some of that body fat they acquired during bulking (while keeping the muscle) and they can do that much faster using some of these stimulants. As for the people assuming that Reshad Jones and Dion Jordan were using steroids, it is very possible that they tested positive for stimulants. Most of the items on the NFL list of banned stimulants and masking agents are items you can buy at your local GNC store. Every serious lifter has to use some kind of stimulant.

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Definitely not the trainer's fault. Its on the players to read labels and ask questions. Every player has been made aware of the banned substance list on multiple occasions. Its up to them to know what goes in their body, especially when training away from the team during the offseason.

Not to mention in a case like Jordan we are talking about making millions and nobody making that type of money is just using a supplement without research or checking whats in it. The players want the fans to believe this is some kind of accident but I don't believe it for one second. If it was an accident I feel more players would be coming up hot.

 

[slk018]

#strongertogether- Reshad and Dion

Our problem isn't our guys cheating. It is why the hell are our guys getting caught???
I think Hayden or Wanny mentioned earlier where is Kevin O'Neil? the new trainer either doesn't know how to beat a test or he doesn't have any supplements/ juice he can give them that wont fail a test

 

[Zounds]

Its also even more possible that esp Jordan was using a roid or a masker esp since the change in his body. Regardless he tried to cheat the system and got caught , there is a reason these are banned

You can't tell what drug this guy took by looking at his body, but being Dlockz, I'm sure that you will try to argue that. Gaining 15 lbs during an offseason can be done without roids. I'm not saying he didn't take roids - but I am saying that its entirely possible to gain 15lbs without roids when weight training is your full-time job. And there were reports of him weighing close to 260 towards the end of last season, so yea, it possible to do without roids.

 

[dlockz]

You can't tell what drug this guy took by looking at his body, but being Dlockz, I'm sure that you will try to argue that. Gaining 15 lbs during an offseason can be done without roids. I'm not saying he didn't take roids - but I am saying that its entirely possible to gain 15lbs without roids when weight training is your full-time job. And there were reports of him weighing close to 260 towards the end of last season, so yea, it possible to do without roids.

I don't buy that he was suspended on some mistake, this mistakes would be much more common. Lets see because im me I suspect the worst but how many dolphin players have been suspended yea two.
Either way he was trying to cheat and got caught but of course Im the bad fan

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#strongertogether- Reshad and Dion

Our problem isn't our guys cheating. It is why the hell are our guys getting caught???
I think Hayden or Wanny mentioned earlier where is Kevin O'Neil? the new trainer either doesn't know how to beat a test or he doesn't have any supplements/ juice he can give them that wont fail a test

Yes that's the solution mask these cheaters better lol. Lets place the blame where it belongs on Jones and Jordan

 

[slk018]

I don't buy that he was suspended on some mistake, this mistakes would be much more common. Lets see because im me I suspect the worst but how many dolphin players have been suspended yea two.
Either way he was trying to cheat and got caught but of course Im the bad fan

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Yes that's the solution mask these cheaters better lol. Lets place the blame where it belongs on Jones and Jordan

Locks I hate to break it to you but wayyy more guys than u think use PEDs/ They usually are usually aheasd of the curve with the drugs that don't show on tests yet..

But at least they got #strongertogether

 

[Zounds]

I don't buy that he was suspended on some mistake, this mistakes would be much more common. Lets see because im me I suspect the worst but how many dolphin players have been suspended yea two.
Either way he was trying to cheat and got caught but of course Im the bad fan

I didnt say he was suspended by mistake, or that you are a bad fan. All I said was he wans't necessarily suspended for steroids. Whatever he was suspended for though, it was legit because he accepted responsibility for it and he isnt appealing it.

 

[roy_miami]

#strongertogether- Reshad and Dion

Our problem isn't our guys cheating. It is why the hell are our guys getting caught???
I think Hayden or Wanny mentioned earlier where is Kevin O'Neil? the new trainer either doesn't know how to beat a test or he doesn't have any supplements/ juice he can give them that wont fail a test

Can you imagine the ****ing ****storm that would bring if the staff was caught doing this? Lawsuits, suspensions, loss of draft picks, take your pick.

 

[dlockz]

Locks I hate to break it to you but wayyy more guys than u think use PEDs/ They usually are usually aheasd of the curve with the drugs that don't show on tests yet..

But at least they got #strongertogether

Im sure more do use PEds its all about the masking. Just because many use it doesn't mean I want us to hire a trainer based on his masking ability.
Im all for the NFL cracking down much more and starting HGH testing. I have no respect for any of the juicers and such esp in this era.

 

[dlockz]

I didnt say he was suspended by mistake, or that you are a bad fan. All I said was he wans't necessarily suspended for steroids. Whatever he was suspended for though, it was legit because he accepted responsibility for it and he isnt appealing it.

probably doesn't have an appeal, I mean its easy to accept when u have no other recourse and of course he will say he took a stimulant because it makes him look better. I just wish the NFL would be able to say exactly what they took, but of course the NFL doesn't really want to do that either.

 

[Zounds]

probably doesn't have an appeal, I mean its easy to accept when u have no other recourse and of course he will say he took a stimulant because it makes him look better. I just wish the NFL would be able to say exactly what they took, but of course the NFL doesn't really want to do that either.

The NFL is just complying with federal law. Not everything is about trying to cover up the NFL and player's image.

 

[dlockz]

The NFL is just complying with federal law. Not everything is about trying to cover up the NFL and player's image.

Im just saying the NFL would prefer there be some mystery instead of getting a major black eye. I realize they have little choice but in reality these guys are trying to beat the system and most fans are not buying that they had a cold and took something bad or that they just grabbed something from GNC by mistake. The NFL does need to make real penalties for these issues. First time offender should miss at least half a season, then a season then a lifetime ban but not sure how serious NFL is about this issue. Not to mention the players union.

 

[flynryan15]

Hippaa law

 

[Zounds]

Im just saying the NFL would prefer there be some mystery instead of getting a major black eye. I realize they have little choice but in reality these guys are trying to beat the system and most fans are not buying that they had a cold and took something bad or that they just grabbed something from GNC by mistake. The NFL does need to make real penalties for these issues. First time offender should miss at least half a season, then a season then a lifetime ban but not sure how serious NFL is about this issue. Not to mention the players union.

Most fans don't know the difference between a trap play and a sweep, and I doubt the average fan out there is drawing a line between stimulant PED's and sterioid PEDs.....they are just PED's to most people.