Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Feb 12, 2018.
He made more plays than Branch who's paid a lot more money. A definite keeper!
So what if he's a Flat-Earth believer.
Assuming his back is good to go, we should resign Hayes. Good to have an excellent edge setter in the rotation at DE...especially in a division with the Jets and Bills looking to establish a running game
Tag shouldn't even be an option in the title
Strong edge setter, big reason run defense improved. Good veteran presence. Not sure his cost, but if reasonable I would definitely bring back.
Keep him to rotate with Harris and find Wake a better partner on his side to rotate with
Well, before we restructured his deal, he was set to make $5 mil in 2018.
His agent is most likely gonna start a bit north of that.
I want to keep him, so long as the number isn't nuts.
Absolutely bring him back, at the right cost
So far its 14-0 all in favor of retain. Glad to see FH is on the same page on this one.
It's still early.
Provided he can pass a physical I saw a number of $4 mil fully guaranteed. That’s about $2 mil less than I think his value is to us
But if I’m miami given his age his coming off back injury and he doesn’t fit many schemes I’m asking him to wait til after the draft
No reason to make it a free agency priority unless miami has no 43 de rotational draft add priority
At the right price keep him. It is interesting that Miami voided that two-year deal. Still scratching my head on that one.
We made a lot of jokes at his expense, but he has been exactly what we wanted at LDE. My only complain would be that he's old and got injured ... otherwise I'd call this acquisition a home run ... an absolute steal. Definitely re-sign him as long as he is getting healthy.
He was awesome. No brainer.
Look at this graded free agent list. Right now Hayes is the 14 th ranked free agent, but we all know that most of the guys ahead of him on this list will never hit free agency.
Dallas has already said Lawrence will be tagged if no deal is reached, and that is the case for several of the others as well. Brees has said he won't play anywhere else, so he is definitely not available.
In fact, I would predict that the only players ahead of Williams on this list will be:
Patrick Robinson,Dion Lewis,Andrew Norwell,Tyvon Branch,and maybe EJ Gaines. Bills have plenty of cap room, especially if they draft a QB and release what's his name. Eric Wood is retiring as well freeing up another nearly 10 mil in cap.
So, bottom line is that Hayes will be a top ten free agent come March. He will also be the top ranked edge defender out there, and if the Saints find a way to keep Okafor, the next ranked edge defender behind Hayes will be_______________________________________Dion Jordan.
So William Hayes has everything going for him, and if he wasn't 33 and coming off an injury, he would probably be getting a monster contract; as it is, he won't be cheap, and the Dolphins aren't really in a position where they can get into a bidding over a 33 year old DE.
No, Hayes will do well for himself and could end up with one of the 28 teams who have more cap room than the Dolphins.
His size and versatility make him of use to teams running different fronts and even as an undersized 5-technique in a 3-4.
If he's healthy, it's a no-brainer: high caliber individual, quality player + team guy!
We should have kept him with the 2 year deal he signed for, now its a wildcard situation for next year plus we lost a draft pick that would have been on a 3 year minimum deal and been developing. Sure he played well this year but his contributions were wasted on this loosing season IMO.
Voiding the second year was always a mystery to me, and they never really explained why that was done, either.
Hayes asked for it and they did... Hayes bet on himself, got injured and lost...
If you're keeping Cameron Wake then you really need to re-sign this guy to play base (and kick inside). He's a proven commodity. It's that or spend a high draft pick on a questionable DE. (Chubb will be gone.) It's an easy roster spot fill when we have too many other needs up and down the roster. They never should have shortened his deal to begin with....
We are eventually going to need another DE and can draft one next year. Branch will be gone (hopefully). Harris will be ready to start on the weak side. Wake will probably retire and leave us with a need on the strong side. Hopefully we can find a 3-down guy.
Hayes said he never asked for a new deal. He (his agent) was approached by the front office. He also said if he knew how much he would like it here, he never would have restructured.
Yeah^ that's how I remember it, too...
Thats where I got the info earlier... At first the article says it was the Fins idea, but later in the same article, he writes: "So why did the Dolphins agree to it?"... I'm confused...
I cannot remember where I saw it but it came directly from Hayes.
Sounds to me like he wants to sign on again....
His original contract was basically a one year deal with no 2018 guaranteed money. Not sure why the FO restructured. One thought is they will try to trade Wake, not re-sign Hayes and go after a 3 down player. I would not like it but it makes sense considering it's 1 player replacing 2 as well as getting younger at DE. Getting something out of Wake before he is done and still a commodity. It's a Belichick type move.
He's a bit older and coming back from season ending injury. He played well but don't go breaking the bank once again based on one season that he couldn't finish. I'd like him back but at the right price
Something to consider; Suh has lined up at DE in the past and was awesome.
Dolphins may have a Reggie White type player if they gave him a legitimate shot.
Not exclusively mind you, but he could take some of the snaps at DE that Hayes was getting.
We have a couple nicely developing DT's who can man the middle.
Is he the guy that doesn’t believe in dinosaurs?
Agree w this.
Bring him back and let him compete.
I don't recall exactly. I can kinda understand not believing in Dinosaurs. But the Flat-earth thing is on another level.
True. Those bones they dig up all around the world were probably giant, deformed people.
Don't forget about mermaids. I think he got a little too into that ludicrous Shark Week 'documentary' a few years back.
Despite him having crazy beliefs, the dolphins approaching him about voiding the last year on his contract with ZERO guaranteed money is way more bonkers. The mental gymnastics necessary to justify that is Olympic gold material. Tannenbaum delivers once again. Hopefully we'll resign him for triple what he was already inked for so Tbum doesn't miss an opportunity to double down on stupid.
Would love to keep him but his market is going to be pretty strong in a weak DE free agency class.
I say let him walk and allow it to factor into the Comp formula.