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Ricky just shows that athletes can get away with anything

enigmatics said:
It's a question of integrity. If you have integrity as a loyal fan to your beloved team, why on God's earth would you want the man back on the team no questions asked? Not one of you mention what you think would be an acceptable form of apology.


Integrity? It's a game. And we don't even play it, we just watch it. It's pretty lame to question someone's loyalty to the team just because they're a forgiving person. That's all this really boils down to. I was mad that Ricky left, but as a fan of the team, I realize that he could still have value to the team, and I want him back as a backup. If he makes his way back to form, fine, good for him. If not, the team's out a league-minimum salary. It's a shame to want to deny the team an opportunity to either have a capable backup or create a trade opportunity down the road just because you're still bitter at the guy.
 
first of all, if a player is still mad at ricky just deal with it, let him get hit once on a open shot or just punch him once and get it over with. Right now he is only helping ronnie. If he stays and plays he adds years to ronnies carrer, without him having to be the man, it takes so much presure off his rookie year. And ricky is leaving in 2 years anyways so its not like his is taking over ronnies RB duties forever. And unlike HS football for the guy who brought up the example, its not like hes just riding the pine, and we like the star player better. 99% of the people here if asked who to get rid of would get rid of ricky first.
 
feelthepain said:
I guess since it happend in front of a bar everyone that watched it were guilty aswell?? He had a trial and the jury found him innocent. Watching a crime doesn't make you guilty of anything. He witheld eveidecne to protect someone. It means he was guilty of withholding evidence and nothing more.

Withholding evidence IS being an accomplice. That is the defintion of being an accomplice. And I guess if you believe the jury says he is innocent then that makes it so, then I guess OJ is inocent also.:shakeno:
 
Predaphin said:
I can't believe some of you guys....comparing Ricky to the likes of OJ, J. Williams, and Ray Lewis....all he did was smoke some bud...which by the way was never convicted of nor did he ever step in a criminal courtroom....& who quit on a coach that had no idea of what he was doing, that's it.

Now he is as bad as some of these guys who were being tried for murder...gimmie a break!

oh wait, but what Jamal Lewis did with cocaine is ok because he never QUIT on his football team, right???? BS!
Totally agree with you..
 
enigmatics said:
It's a question of integrity. If you have integrity as a loyal fan to your beloved team, why on God's earth would you want the man back on the team no questions asked? Not one of you mention what you think would be an acceptable form of apology.

I think if Ricky would just come into the locker room , wearing only a jock strap, a long tail, donkey ears strapped to his head, and big buck teeth, and shouts to the whole team, " I've been an a$$!" while doing the hokie pokie, that it would be an acceptable appology.

The guy made a mistake, I'm not going to string him up by his balls for it. Part of integrity is making a wrong, right.

Steve
 
I cant believe most katz hear cant FORGIVE. Hey, i was pissed that Ricky left myself, but dude he made a mistake. A big mistake yes, but a mistake still. I got over it a while ago and if you cant, I have to words for you............Dr.Phil
 
You guys are just mad cause we suked without him. If Morlon Greenwood whould have done the same thing no one would give a crap. And let me ask yall a question, have you ever quit a job on a wim? Well if you haven't good for you but i guarantee most people in hear have. When you quit a job you dont care what will happen to the people you leave behind. BUt if you ever need a job again, most times you can get that job back. FOOTBALL IS A JOOOOOOOB!. Get over it!
 
mistergreens said:
People make comments all the time about who is and who is not a "Saban type guy." How can anyone here say Ricky is a Saban guy?

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When Ricky played and was dedicated to the team for two seasons, he damn sure was a perfect exmple of a Saban type player. He was never selfish obnoxious or always crediting himself. He wanted to do anything to help the team including letting Wanny run him more times in two seasons than any RB in history.

If Saban has talked to Ricky and Ricky repects Nick, he will play his *** off for this team and you can write that down as a fact.
 
TARHEEL38 said:
Withholding evidence IS being an accomplice. That is the defintion of being an accomplice. And I guess if you believe the jury says he is innocent then that makes it so, then I guess OJ is inocent also.:shakeno:
:shakeno: WRONG!!! Being an accomplice to murder or any crime means that you helped in the Planning, Execution, and concealment of that crime. Ray neither helped plan or carry out the stabbing. There is a whole other charge in which he was accused of that is different from the criminal act itself called the "COVER UP"... AKA Withholding Evidence or interfering with a Criminal Investigation... Neither of those are equal to the completely different charge of accomplice to murder.. like I said.. if Ray had sat in his Stretch Limo and said, Ok, you jump out, stab that guy, we'll create a distraction over here, and then we'll haul @$$ when you hop back in the ride.. then he would have been an accomplice, because he helped plan, carry out, and attempt to conceal the crime..
 
fishfan34 said:
:shakeno: WRONG!!! Being an accomplice to murder or any crime means that you helped in the Planning, Execution, and concealment of that crime. Ray neither helped plan or carry out the stabbing. There is a whole other charge in which he was accused of that is different from the criminal act itself called the "COVER UP"... AKA Withholding Evidence or interfering with a Criminal Investigation... Neither of those are equal to the completely different charge of accomplice to murder.. like I said.. if Ray had sat in his Stretch Limo and said, Ok, you jump out, stab that guy, we'll create a distraction over here, and then we'll haul @$$ when you hop back in the ride.. then he would have been an accomplice, because he helped plan, carry out, and attempt to conceal the crime..

I believe it's called an "accomplice after the fact" if you withhold evidence in an attemp to prevent someone from being charged with the crime. Regardless of what you call it, it's certainly worse than walking away from a football team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a felony.
 
TARHEEL38 said:
Withholding evidence IS being an accomplice. That is the defintion of being an accomplice. And I guess if you believe the jury says he is innocent then that makes it so, then I guess OJ is inocent also.:shakeno:
Yeah, and footballs are like golf balls. :dunce:
 
mistergreens said:
Ricky Williams comin back just shows that someone can do drugs and sell out his teammates, but as long as he is good enough, all is forgotten.

People make comments all the time about who is and who is not a "Saban type guy." How can anyone here say Ricky is a Saban guy?

People say, "well, it's okay, he ADDS VALUE to this team." Really? He will miss a total of 1.25 seasons, how much value did he add to his team then?

It just doesn't add up.
no way... if anybody was as good at their job like ricky and quit...and the company or w/e failed, i am sure they would be taken back. besides who cares what r u worrying about it doesnt afeect you
 
CanadaPhinsFan said:
I believe it's called an "accomplice after the fact" if you withhold evidence in an attemp to prevent someone from being charged with the crime. Regardless of what you call it, it's certainly worse than walking away from a football team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a felony.
No, last I checked being a quitter is a lot of things, but a crime it's not.. you are correct.. :wink:
 
feelthepain said:
I hope for your sake you don't have kids someday and god forbid they have a drug problem on top of being bipolar. And the people in control of their future aren't as shallow and unforgiving as you. Ricky was abused by Wanny, I would have quit too. Ricky had all summer after his second season to quit but he gets into camp and see's that things will be the same as the previous two years and he quits. Sure his drug problem and his disease were part of the problem. But if Wanny knew anything about the players at all, he could have helped Ricky through the tough times. Instead of ignoring the problem. I'm not trying to say Ricky shouldn't be held responsible, but he doesn't have to come back at all. I think he's at least trying and you want to shut the door in his face...well like I said above if this ever happens to someone close to you that they have someone with a shread of compassion because you clearly don't. But make sure you smile your behind off and bragg to all your rivals how great he is if he returns strong.


he said he didn't have the passion for football. he tried numerous times to fight the dolphins about the $8.6 million he owed them. now he all of a sudden wants to play again?! give me a break. he only wants to play again to pay back the money he owes us. otherwise why the hell would he have fought it in court/through arbitrators, etc? now that he realizes he will have to pay the money back (and is in a bigger hole now that he owes child support to the 4 mothers of his 4 different kids) he wants to play again. i just can't believe the number of chances you give, and things you will let ricky do to this team. why screw up what saban is working to rebuild? the last thing we need is a distraction, etc. maybe he deserves another chance, but sure as hell not with the team he completely screwed over time and time again (this would be the dolphins, for those of you who are blind to the facts).
 
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