Ricky Williams Q&A

[PHAZINPHINZPHAN]

(On if he feels faster than he did before he retired) – "I think my body has had a chance to rest. I am healthier than what I was before I left. I am about 15-lbs. lighter so that makes a difference."

Only half decent response he had.

 

[guido13]

I'd say he's coming from a Buddhist perspective which emphasizes non attachment and living in the moment. This tends to sound aloof to the western linear mind.

Exactly. I think it is poorly understood in our American society of getting things done yesterday, immediate pleasure and relief and always focusing ob the future and letting the now pass you right bye. He is actually on a higher level of thinking than most of us. I have done a lot of research into religions, spirtiual practice, buddhism, kabbalah etc; and this guy gets it. Sure he seems weird but that's because that mentality of being happy now and living in the now is foreign to most americans; being spiritual is foreign to most of us.

People will think what they want and say what they want and that's fine. if he's happy i'm happy cause that means 1000++ yards:)

 

[ErroneousFlint]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-rickyqa080205,0,3020706.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

(On if he has expectations anymore) – "No. It is what it is. When you talk about expectations, it is really just your imagination telling you what you want. If you put your attention to the present moment and work hard today, then tomorrow will be there for you."
--- im not finished reading the interview but on the above mentioned quote by RW i think he's either talking out of his rear or trying to convince himself that he's somebody he's not.

come on! expectations are part of working towards what you want. if not then youre mindlessly doing what? doing what you want so either way, he's here because his imagination told him something, right? it couldve been...i dunno: i better get me arse in camp or else i owe some doe that i just aint got. so yeah, i think he's full of crap but its okay, we all are from time to time. but that BS is gonna break sooner or later with crap that thin.

 

[Emskirch]

I don't understand you guys. If we were talking about someone normal I could see your point. Coached meaning, for example, he may have been told try not to talk about the past, say you are here just to work. How many times did he say he was here to work? When it comes to that statement I have no doubt he was coached to say that.

Please remember we are talking about Wicky here. He tends to add his own lil flavor to things. He is without a doubt not the norm. So how could anyone expect him to follow to the letter the coaching he may have got? Has Wicky ever followed anything to the letter? This is the guy who was talked into wearing a wedding dress for a MAG cover.

Please!

Not everyone is "normal". Look around you Ohall, people are not the same as you.

Sorry he doesn't fit your "Normal" way of doing things. Maybe you are the one looking at life the wrong way.

Maybe you should look in the mirror before slamming someone you don't even know.

 

[SkapePhin]

This is incredible to me. And please no one blame me because this thread goes off topic. Trying to Compare the Presidents past alcohol use to what Wicky is currently going through is a scary thing.

But to answer your question, the President has shown everyone alcohol use is no longer an issue for him and has not been for decades now.

Your logic is so flawed it is almost scary.

Oh I see.. Since he is the President he is somehow offlimits to discussions of chemical dependency.. Id hope to think that George Bush is but a man, a human like you, I, and Ricky Williams.. A human that is prone to mistakes just like us all.. So what exactly differentiates the two instances, and how they sought help for their problems?

Are you more willing to forgive because you feel more "like" him than Ricky? I would say so.. That is not surprising, we all tend to be more forgiving and understanding of those more like us, but that does not change the fact that the situations were pretty much the same, only difference being that Ricky is more eccentric... Although, Many people feel W has his own eccentricities..

 

[ohall]

Not everyone is "normal". Look around you Ohall, people are not the same as you.

Sorry he doesn't fit your "Normal" way of doing things. Maybe you are the one looking at life the wrong way.

Maybe you should look in the mirror before slamming someone you don't even know.

This has nothing to do with our daily lives. Why go there?

I am not slamming Wicky. I am simply stating what he did and what he did not do and why he cannot be trusted.

I know for a fact Wicky is not the norm. Is that even being argued that he is? Are you saying he is the norm now?

 

[ohall]

Oh I see.. Since he is the President he is somehow offlimits to discussions of chemical dependency.. Id hope to think that George Bush is but a man, a human like you, I, and Ricky Williams.. A human that is prone to mistakes just like us all.. So what exactly differentiates the two instances, and how they sought help for their problems?

Are you more willing to forgive because you feel more "like" him than Ricky? I would say so.. That is not surprising, we all tend to be more forgiving and understanding of those more like us, but that does not change the fact that the situations were pretty much the same, only difference being that Ricky is more eccentric... Although, Many people feel W has his own eccentricities..

You're doing it again!

I said the President has shown over time, decades in fact his alcohol addiction is no longer an issue. Are you going to imply it still is, or was in the past 10 years or so?

And more to the point to compare Wicky and what he is going through to what the President went through is laughable. You should really re-think that type of logic. It is flawed to say the least. The expression comparing apples to oranges does not even do that type logic justice.

Wicky is not a trust worthy sort, he never has been, period. This is like Wicky's 5th 2nd chance. This guy has failed drug tests 3 times, really 4 times. Are any of you actually implying we should make him the corner stone of this franchise? If not WTH are you all going on about?

Honestly fill me in here!

 

[SkapePhin]

You're doing it again!

I said the President has shown over time, decades in fact his alcohol addiction is no longer an issue. Are you going to imply it still is, or was in the past 10 years or so?

And more to the point to compare Wicky and what he is going through to what the President went through is laughable. You should really re-think that type of logic. It is flawed to say the least. The expression comparing apples to oranges does not even do that type logic justice.

Wicky is not a trust worthy sort, he never has been, period. This is like Wicky's 5th 2nd chance. This guy has failed drug tests 3 times, really 4 times. Are any of you actually implying we should make him the corner stone of this franchise? If not WTH are you all going on about?

Honestly fill me in here!

Ok then, was the President untrustworthy the first year after he gave up alcohol? So how long did it take for those around him to regain their trust in him that he was no longer chemically dependent? He quit after getting a DUI correct? Do you think this was the first time he had ever driven drunk? Id think not.. Id vouch to say he had driven while intoxicated more than 4 times in his lifetime as an alcoholic.. But the first time caught.. It was a turning point I suppose.. and he looked to God and Jesus, and found a way out of it.. I commend that..

Now I see a man doing a very similar thing, with a different philosophy.. Anything that can help one overcome their insecurities and cructhes is a worthy endeavor and practice.. If Ricky is finally finding this within Eastern Philosophy, I commend that as well..

And I dont see how its apples to oranges...

GW: alcohol - physically and mentally addictive
RW: marijuana - mentally addictive, mildly physically addictivie (not much data to support physical addiciton claim)

Point of Failure/Desperation:
GW: DUI
RW: Failing Drug Test, Quitting Football (I tend to believe the quitting football aspect was heavily influenced by SAD, you disagree, but that is irrelevent to this topic)

Turning Point
GW: Rekindled relationship with God/Jesus
RW: Eastern Philosophy

Aftermath
GW: Presumably clean after several years
RW: Presumably clean after several months..

So, how exactly are these two situations so vastly different? Why would Ricky be more prone to revert to his old ways? Both have compulsive psychologies... Yet GW remained clean, so why can't Ricky?

 

[Dolfan5000]

This has nothing to do with our daily lives. Why go there?

I am not slamming Wicky. I am simply stating what he did and what he did not do and why he cannot be trusted.

I know for a fact Wicky is not the norm. Is that even being argued that he is? Are you saying he is the norm now?

I understand you don't trust the man because he replied with what seems to be "cookie cutter answers", you would too if you were converting to something like Budddhism. When you are new to a religion you emphasize it a lot in your daily life, and it may seem he's doing this to throw you off but, I certainly don't think so. I think he's actually trying to find true peace in himself and the world around him.

The man spent time in places like India, Aulstrailia, Africa and whatnot to learn more about the world about him and himself. He's simply trying to change, what's so wrong with that? Ricky's always seemed a little sketchy since he retired, but I believe it's because he's emphasizing forgien principles which seem totally different than ours.

Who said the man has to be "Normal" to be trustworthy? Is that what you consider, someone who is totally secure with themself is more trustworthy than someone like Ricky? I didn't agree with him at first when he retired, but now that I know more about him it seems he's just a hippie, and that's not a bad thing (p.s. not all hippies have to smoke pot). Just cut the guy a break, it seems no one ever really has.

 

[Ross]

Smoke one then read the interview. He makes alot of sense...

--Ross

 

[TorontoFin]

As i feared, Ricky truly doesn't seem into it man. I have no doubt that WHEN he puts on those pads, he'll act like a professional -- as he did those years under wanny -- but still sounds like a guy who could wake up tomorrow and decide not to put on those pads. Like Willis McGahee's knee, this guy's days are numbered, me thinks

 

[Dolfan5000]

Smoke one then read the interview. He makes alot of sense...

--Ross

*Sigh*
:shakeno: :shakeno: :shakeno:
It's always about him smoking pot right?

 

[ohall]

Ok then, was the President untrustworthy the first year after he gave up alcohol? So how long did it take for those around him to regain their trust in him that he was no longer chemically dependent? He quit after getting a DUI correct? Do you think this was the first time he had ever driven drunk? Id think not.. Id vouch to say he had driven while intoxicated more than 4 times in his lifetime as an alcoholic.. But the first time caught.. It was a turning point I suppose.. and he looked to God and Jesus, and found a way out of it.. I commend that..

Now I see a man doing a very similar thing, with a different philosophy.. Anything that can help one overcome their insecurities and cructhes is a worthy endeavor and practice.. If Ricky is finally finding this within Eastern Philosophy, I commend that as well..

And I dont see how its apples to oranges...

GW: alcohol - physically and mentally addictive
RW: marijuana - mentally addictive, mildly physically addictivie (not much data to support physical addiciton claim)

Point of Failure/Desperation:
GW: DUI
RW: Failing Drug Test, Quitting Football (I tend to believe the quitting football aspect was heavily influenced by SAD, you disagree, but that is irrelevent to this topic)

Turning Point
GW: Rekindled relationship with God/Jesus
RW: Eastern Philosophy

Aftermath
GW: Presumably clean after several years
RW: Presumably clean after several months..

So, how exactly are these two situations so vastly different? Why would Ricky be more prone to revert to his old ways? Both have compulsive psychologies... Yet GW remained clean, so why can't Ricky?

You are making HUGE assumptions again.

Bush has proven, as I have now said THREE times for decades his alcohol issues aew long since resolved. Now let's address the Wicky situation. How many decades have gone by since Wicky proved he was a total idiot?

Hence, your logic is totally flawed. I cannot believe you are still digging that hole.

 

[ohall]

I understand you don't trust the man because he replied with what seems to be "cookie cutter answers", you would too if you were converting to something like Budddhism. When you are new to a religion you emphasize it a lot in your daily life, and it may seem he's doing this to throw you off but, I certainly don't think so. I think he's actually trying to find true peace in himself and the world around him.

The man spent time in places like India, Aulstrailia, Africa and whatnot to learn more about the world about him and himself. He's simply trying to change, what's so wrong with that? Ricky's always seemed a little sketchy since he retired, but I believe it's because he's emphasizing forgien principles which seem totally different than ours.

Who said the man has to be "Normal" to be trustworthy? Is that what you consider, someone who is totally secure with themself is more trustworthy than someone like Ricky? I didn't agree with him at first when he retired, but now that I know more about him it seems he's just a hippie, and that's not a bad thing (p.s. not all hippies have to smoke pot). Just cut the guy a break, it seems no one ever really has.

Who siad he had to be normal to be trustworthy? I most certainly never did, nor did I even imply it.

He however has to not be a quitter and liar to be trustworthy.

If some of you want to trust him, and minimize his past actions just because he is wearing aqua and orange, more power to you. I won't fall for Wicky's lies again. He has along record of being what he is.

I'm happy he's back because I am all for trying to get as much for the draft picks we gave up to get him. But in no way should he be relied upon as far as long term plans for this franchise.

 

[Dolfan5000]

You are making HUGE assumptions again.

Bush has proven, as I have now said THREE times for decades his alcohol issues aew long since resolved. Now let's address the Wicky situation. How many decades have gone by since Wicky proved he was a total idiot?

Hence, your logic is totally flawed. I cannot believe you are still digging that hole.

He just got back man. Hasn't had but about a week and half to prove anything. But I bet you think even in time he won't change, so it's no use in anyone commenting on what you say because you're way too headstrong.