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Ricky's new comments irk me

Sorry to get in so late on this. There's another fasdcinating thread about whether Ricky is engaging in double talk or applied philosophy. But Enig, to address the specific comment you were questioning, I just took it to mean Ricky realizes he's not going to be THE featured back here anymore, and he won't get back to the numbers he's had in the past. Not a big deal, IMO.
 
DrAstroZoom said:
Sorry to get in so late on this. There's another fasdcinating thread about whether Ricky is engaging in double talk or applied philosophy. But Enig, to address the specific comment you were questioning, I just took it to mean Ricky realizes he's not going to be THE featured back here anymore, and he won't get back to the numbers he's had in the past. Not a big deal, IMO.

If we leave the reasoning and philosophizing aside; he is doing whats best. Wants to blend in and do his job. He has never really enjoyed being outspoken or center of attention. He would like to be a Vlad Guerrero type. Plus, about the money thing, didn't Saban contact Ricky? Not the other way around
 
  • RW has always been aloof and withdrawn off the field.. that's his business.
  • RW has always been a fierce competitor on the field.
  • RW has never been an issue inside the locker room.
  • In the past he has neven been an issue on the field, he plays hurt and produces.
  • Let the man be, his job is play football, the rest will take of itself.
 
enigmatics said:
How does "moving foward" translate into "I want to be even better?" Did you not read his comments????? The man openly admits not expecting to get to the level he was at.

Did YOU read the quote? He didn't say he didn't expect to be at the "level" he was at, he said he didn't expect to be "where he was at." Ricky has been studying Eastern religious philosophies- Zen, etc. While I don't adhere to those philosophies, I have read about them. Ricky's point of view (I think) is that the past and the future are unimportant, that only the "now" matters. He may do better, he may do worse, he's not using the past as a yardstick. He's talking about the space he's in now and moving forward as a person in the whole, not just his rushing yards.

I know it's all sounds like new age mumbo-jumbo (although Zen Buddhism is thousands of years old), and I agree, but interpret his comments from that perspective. He's not planning or expecting to do worse- he's not planning or expecting anything! He can dance in the rain and sacrifice hamsters as far as I'm concerned, as long as he contributes to our success. And of course, we never put ourselves in a position where we're dependant on his flakey a$$!
 
He definately is an interesting character.I dont know him so I really have no right to make judgemental opinions of him but he does seem to change his mind often and can even contradict himself in one sentence.

BTW guys ,you also have made valid points.Its all good.
 
CrunchTime said:
He definately is an interesting character.I dont know him so I really have no right to make judgemental opinions of him but he does seem to change his mind often and can even contradict himself in one sentence.

BTW guys you also have made valid points.Its all good.

Excellent point. This has been one of the more enjoyable discussions. Very intellectual. Plus I have to admit, I love studying Acient history and religions and most people don't give a Rats Arse, so for me its fun.

Thanks for the great discussion.
 
And for those bashing Enig's original post, this is actually some toned-down, rational criticism for him on this issue. I applaud you, sir. :clap:
 
enigmatics said:
...........most of you know that I completely disagree with having him on the Phins..........and perhaps I'm knit-picking a tad here, but Ricky's latest comments irk me.

I think it's great the man doesn't want to look back. That's fine, who legitimately wants to constantly be stuck in the rut of the past. Yet some of us have been questioning the man's heart and desire since he decided he wanted back. He's not really commented up to this point what he is set out to do now that he's back other than really general statements that most football players make........until now. The whole "I don't expect to get back to where I was a few years ago," just doesn't sound kosher to me.

A guy with passion to play again, would openly come out and say he wants to come back and dominate. Ricky's comments, to me, translate into "Ya I'm back, I don't want to be bugged about the past, just let me play no matter the result." Doesn't sound like lofty goals to me.

Anybody else get that impression?

I'm sure others have mentioned this or at least alluded (sp?) to it but I would have been more worried if Ricky come out all hyper and said he loves football as much as he ever did.

He never loved it. That's why he was also playing baseball. He thought of baseball as more of a thinking sport.....and he had some talent for it..some!

This is sad to an extent but I totally understand where he's coming from. He doesn't want his "job" to define who he is but he's been so good at it, that that is exactly what he felt it was doing. Not only his job but also the reporters who covered it and the fans who cheered for him. I truly do understand that feeling. I've been through it in my life. I of course didin't have the money or talent or play a nationally televised sport but my "work", as ricky also called it, defined me. Or at least I thought in my own mind that it did. And just like Ricky I took time away. Ok, I didn't travel to India (although I've always wanted to) but I intenetionallly worked 5 different jobs the last 2 years. I had worked in my same job for the previous 16.

Anyway, that's more than you folks really needed to know but I really was trying to make a point and not just that I understand what he's feeling or talking about, it's that he doesn't have to LOVE his job to do it well or even excell at it. History is filled with people like that, including football history Jim Brown, Barry Sanders and Robert Smith come to mind.....interesting that it seems to mostly happen with RBs. :)
 
HelloMotto said:
you should head his advice and look forward. your obessed with the past. move on.

No. It was a good try though. :rofl3:
 
guido13 said:
What irks me are all these threads focusing on the past and Ricky bashing. Most of our opinions are formed about people based on our lives and what we would do in the same situation. If your not in somebody's shoes, you don't REALLY know what they're thinking. Ricky is eccentric, extremely intelligent, poorly understood and probably on a higher level of thinking than all of us. Most people who throw around allegations and insults are just professing their ignorance. He has a very eastern thought process or philosophy. Just cause we don't understand it doesn't mean we should condemn it. Read a book or two on Buddhism, Taoism, or Yoga and you will see whay he answers questions the way he does. He lives in the now. The past is the past and cannot be changed, and the future distracts us from the now. If you focus on the now and ejoying, fulfilling and taking advantage of the present; the future will take care of itself. Western philosophy has alot of catching up to do with eastern philosophy. The traditional western response to this is "FRUITCAKE". I disagree. It just takes more time and more effort to truly understand it and ourselves, so it's must easier to make fun of it and then try to better one another instead of trying to make ourselves better.

Wholly crap, Where the hell did that come from. I think I was possessed by the Dali Lama

If we're not in somebody's shoes we don't know what they're thinking, but you do evidently?
 
SpurzN703 said:
--A guy with passion to play again, would openly come out and say he wants to come back and dominate--

Always remember the quote, "We're all different". There's no standard as to who does what and how they do it. Ricky does and says what he wants, just like you, me, and everyone else. There can be 25,000 football players that "would openly come out and say he wants to come back and dominate". Ricky doesn't. He's a totally different person. Let his production on the field do the talking.

Again, what's ironic to me is that nearly 4 months ago when he had that chat with Mike Silver of Sports Illustrated, he claimed he had 2 years and 4,000 yards left in him. I just find that funny. Before he was a Dolphin he boasted that he could put up numbers only the best back in football could. Now that he's a Dolphin again he, "Doesn't expect to get back to his old form."
 
DrAstroZoom said:
And for those bashing Enig's original post, this is actually some toned-down, rational criticism for him on this issue. I applaud you, sir. :clap:

Hahaha. Well he's on the team now, nothin' I can do about that. Just watchin' what he does with another opportunity he's getting.
 
enigmatics said:
If we're not in somebody's shoes we don't know what they're thinking, but you do evidently?

You miss my point. I am at least looking through the perspective he is most likely looking through. To try to explain his comments without knowing or understanding his philosophy or eastern point of view is wrong. I don't know what his is definately or actually thinking, but if you understand the easternm philosophies, his comments are very normal and fully understandable. And you really can't compare older comments. It is a growing process that is life long.
 
guido13 said:
Excellent point. This has been one of the more enjoyable discussions. Very intellectual. Plus I have to admit, I love studying Acient history and religions and most people don't give a Rats Arse, so for me its fun.

Thanks for the great discussion.
Pm me if you ever want to discuss this sort of thing. I know what you mean when you say "most people don't give a Rats Arse".
 
Scrap said:
Pm me if you ever want to discuss this sort of thing. I know what you mean when you say "most people don't give a Rats Arse".

I definately will. Maybe one evening when I see you on line. :)
 
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