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Way more effective at Auburn players cramping up on kickoffs? Agreed.

FSU was way more effective in the second half, regardless of the kickoff. I can make a pretty good argument that scoring so quickly hurt FSU as it gassed their defense to be back on the field so quickly. Auburn went right down the field and scored. Aside from that, whether that guy cramped or not, I doubt anyone would have touched Whitfield.

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FSU was way more effective in the second half, regardless of the kickoff. I can make a pretty good argument that scoring so quickly hurt FSU as it gassed their defense to be back on the field so quickly. Auburn went right down the field and scored. Aside from that, whether that guy cramped or not, I doubt anyone would have touched Whitfield.

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Hey listen, congrats on your alma mater winning the BCS Championship. That's a damn good football team and they deserve it.

But Jimbo got outcoached pretty ****ing badly -- at least in my opinion. And there's no shame in that. There's a reason this thread was started and this many posts. :lol:
 
FSU adjusted reasonably well at the half, but they also had a lot more room to adjust. Despite their vast advantage in talent, they were getting their heads kicked in. Fisher and his staff looked completely unprepared at times, like Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The main positive switch that I saw was going to more of a short passing game rather than trying to beat the blitz with the deep ball. That helped Winston out, even though his footwork continued to be awful and his accuracy scattershot. The defense also adjusted to some of what Auburn was doing, but it's telling that Auburn adjusted right back and was moving the ball basically at will in the fourth quarter against the best defense in college football.

It was telling to me that as they were going into halftime Jimbo Fisher's message was basically that he thought FSU was fine and needed to calm down. Malzahn on the other hand told you exactly what he was going to do -- "wear them down." And that's exactly what they did. They knew FSU didn't have the stamina to go four quarters. They hadn't had to all year.

I'll put it this way. If you had switched the quarterbacks of the two teams I still would have listed FSU as a solid favorite. Winston is a good player but I said before the game I think he's become somewhat overrated and quarterback led teams in these scenarios often underperform because guys in their very early 20s aren't quite ready for the biggest of big stages (Vince Young being a notable exception). But if you had switched the coaches, then I doubt Auburn gets within 30 points of FSU. That's what we're talking about here.
 
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FSU adjusted reasonably well at the half, but they also had a lot more room to adjust. Despite their vast advantage in talent, they were getting their heads kicked in. Fisher and his staff looked completely unprepared at times, like Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The main positive switch that I saw was going to more of a short passing game rather than trying to beat the blitz with the deep ball. That helped Winston out, even though his footwork continued to be awful and his accuracy scattershot. The defense also adjusted to some of what Auburn was doing, but it's telling that Auburn adjusted right back and was moving the ball basically at will in the fourth quarter against the best defense in college football.

It was telling to me that as they were going into halftime Jimbo Fisher's message was basically that he thought FSU was fine and needed to calm down. Malzahn on the other hand told you exactly what he was going to do -- "wear them down." And that's exactly what they did. They knew FSU did have the stamina to go four quarters. They hadn't had to all year.

I'll put it this way. If you had switched the quarterbacks of the two teams I still would have listed FSU as a solid favorite. Winston is a good player but I said before the game I thought he's become somewhat overrated and quarterback led teams in these scenarios often underperform because the quarterbacks aren't quite ready for prime time (Vince Young being a notable exception). But if you had switched the coaches, then I doubt Auburn gets within 30 points of FSU. That's what we're talking about here.

I totally agree with this. My comments about the halftime adjustments were strictly giving Jimbo a little credit for righting the ship. He was thoroughly out-coached by Gus but did just well enough to win despite a major talent advantage. I have hammered Jimbo plenty and have ridiculed his play calling. In fact, I was calling for his head most of the night because his play calling sucked for the most part. Bottom line is, I would welcome Gus to Miami and believe him to be one of the best coaches in the country at any level.

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Hey listen, congrats on your alma mater winning the BCS Championship. That's a damn good football team and they deserve it.

But Jimbo got outcoached pretty ****ing badly -- at least in my opinion. And there's no shame in that. There's a reason this thread was started and this many posts. :lol:

You are correct, he did get outcoached very badly. However, he did make some effective adjustments in the second half that allowed FSU to win. I am not a huge fan of Fisher at all, never have been, but wanted to give credit where it is due. I appreciate the congrats...I truly came close to blowing a blood vessel last night!

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Florida State is more talented but Auburn is being slighted in that regard, in an attempt to make Malzahn look like a magician.

Here are the recent recruiting rankings:
FSU's Last 4 classes: #10, #2, #6, #10 and they are #4 this year
Auburn's Last 4 classes: #4, #7, #10, #8 and they are #9 this year

Not exactly an avalanche. Auburn took advantage of the 2010 national title and high profile to recruit extremely well. It was pathetic that Chizik allowed the team to slip so badly last season despite a high level of talent. The handful of bettors who took Auburn at 500/1 or 1000/1 to win the championship this year had great value because those odds didn't align with the level of the roster. Normally when you get 500/1 it's attached to a roster with recruiting rankings in the 40s and 50s.

I thought Florida State looked overconfident and sluggish for the majority of the game. Winston is never quick but he looked out of shape. Their best receivers had the dropsies.

Still, full credit to Florida State's defense for making adjustments and keeping the offense within reach. Normally when Auburn has 21 points in the middle of the second quarter it will translate to 52 at the end of the game, or the 59 than Auburn hung on a very good Missouri defense a month ago in the SEC Championship Game. I don't think any other defense, other than perhaps Michigan State, could have held Auburn to 31 last night, the way they were rolling at the end of the season. The boost Auburn received by winning against Alabama shouldn't be understated. It was identical in 2010, when they played their best game of the season in the SEC title game against South Carolina after escaping the 24-0 hole at Alabama.

I thought Auburn gave up on decisive passes over the middle too soon. Florida State was reeling and wasn't even bumping the slot receiver. With the running game so successful those openings were there. Malzahn has a reputation for ruthlessly exploiting weaknesses so I didn't understand why the quick darts over the middle were all but absent after mid second quarter. Then he strangely decided to run out the clock in the final minute and a half of the first half despite decent field position and a Seminole defense that hadn't shown any ability to stop Auburn.
 
Recruiting class rankings are one thing but FSU has easily double the number of prospects on NFL radars as Auburn. Part of that is the way these things shake out but also because Auburn lost a few top recruits when Chizik and Malzahn were shipped out after the 2011 season... guys like Michael Dyer (5 star recruit), CB Jonathan Rose (4 stars) and OL Christian Westerman (4 stars, rivals had him as the #3 lineman in his class).

Even the spots where Auburn is strong -- like the offensive and defensive line -- FSU is noticeably stronger. Nobody's saying Malzahn went out there with Ball State or Rutgers talent, but FSU is setting itself up for a run of sending college players to the NFL like we haven't seen since USC or Miami before that. Auburn shouldn't have been able to keep it close.
 
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