Ross Tucker: criticism of Philbin and Dolphins leaderhsip is overblown

[finfan54]

and then we go out and get Sims, a guy who could have done a hell of alot more than he did this year, and he sits, while his QB is getting sacked 58 times and he takes half the fk'n season to figure it out!

 

[johngarryvo]

a judgement that was backed up with on the field play you should add...egnew was horrid his rookie year...sherman was spot on...

noted. so let's reverse it.. shine the camera on Sherman in a public forum and tell him he & his sh_tty offense sucked and he shoulda been canned year 1. wanna gauge his reaction?

 

[hoops]

How do you know or not know that Sherman wasnt sitting around the table before the draft saying he was on board for Egnew?

Fact is, this is just convenience for you bashing Ireland. It will be all offseason, but there is much we out here do not know, so people need to stop pretending like they know something when they do not.

Just now there is implication that martin had failed a drug test. No one knew. Thats a big piece of facts in this whole ordeal.

maybe sherman was on board for egnew with that pick...if so he should take some heat for it also...but he's not the final decision maker...as for bashing ireland i don't need more ammo than we got the last few years...his drafts his free agencies all were his undoing

water under the bridge now as they are both gone...i will say one thing though...egnew could have took that criticism and walked out and blamed it on everyone else i'm sure he got ridiculed in that lockerroom and even his own teammates off the record said he would never really help us but instead he went and worked at his craft and on his technique and competed...it's not gonna ever make him anything special but at least he took the criticism and used it the right way and he now validates a roster spot for the time being at least on the 53...

 

[hoops]

noted. so let's reverse it.. shine the camera on Sherman in a public forum and tell him he & his sh_tty offense sucked and he shoulda been canned year 1. wanna gauge his reaction?

well his offense actually showed to suck in year 2 with his situational decision making and lack of intuitiveness etc but who really cares what his reaction is...he sucked he got fired...**** happens...it will continue to happen

he did a poor job of matching the offense or adjusting the offense to the strengths of his personnel on the oline especially and he got fired because of it...stuck with status quo too much...in some ways maybe a fall guy at some level but it comes with the territory

 

[johngarryvo]

well his offense actually showed to suck in year 2 with his situational decision making and lack of intuitiveness etc but who really cares what his reaction is...he sucked he got fired...**** happens...it will continue to happen

his evaluation & firing happened minus the blaring bright light of the camera getting react.. and slithered outta town minus media post mortem.. how comforting. still would love to know how he wasn't a Wells interviewee

 

[utahphinsfan]

and there's the report that Martin's dad & Philbin had a father-to-father talk about Jonathan's mental state in May

Interesting. In discussing the bullygate issue with a friend, he thought Johnny had helicopter parents. I disagreed then. I even posted that JM's parents were too self-absorbed in their own careers to give anything but lip service.

Hindsight being 20/20, my friend may have been spot on.

Here IMO is where it gets dicey. Joe has his own issues w/ troubled kids which should make him sympathetic. Joe maybe detail oriented but is not IMO a micromanager and certainly not omniscient. So, he to rely on Turner & Sherman.

Martin not telling anyone is my biggest issue with Martin and this entire story.

Agreed.

We can play the What If? game plus analyze Joe, Richie, Wells, Turner, JM's parents, etc... Ad Nauseam. The bottom line is Johnny should have been more candid.

 

[rickd13]

That softest generation has been fighting this nations wars
over the past decade and has done a damn fine job of it.

You are right about the guys fighting the wars but the men who are sending them to those wars sure the hell aren't. We have been at war for almost 13 years now because we are making our troops fight with one arm tied behind their back, but we ended WWII in four years. Do you honestly think the leaders of this generation would have the balls to win WWII if they were fighting it today?

 

[GoonBoss]

i hear you but my concern isn't the past or all that much the present...

The present are these young men I see merging into society.

They don't understand how you don't get from point a to point b at the shortest possible
distance. They've been to war, and I don't think we can keep them down on the farm anymore.

I had about 6 total hours with one of these young men the other day. We swapped stories, and
it was a lot of laughs until he started telling me about his freinds and the regrets he carried with
him. All I could do was listen.

These young men ARE the future. And I'd say the future is in good hands for the most part.

 

[GoonBoss]

You are right about the guys fighting the wars but the men who are sending them to those wars sure the hell aren't. We have been at war for almost 13 years now because we are making our troops fight with one arm tied behind their back, but we ended WWII in four years. Do you honestly think the leaders of this generation would have the balls to win WWII if they were fighting it today?

Who's fault is that?

Not the guys on the line.

I guess I have to look right at my generation....46 years old, I am..And all those around me.
It's not the guys on the line's fault. It's my fault. The "Leaders".

Sometimes it's sobering to know that you aren't all you thought you would be cracked up to be.

 

[utahphinsfan]

Thank goodness for these kids. We can learn so much from the military in our other institutions in our society....yet many are going in the polar opposite direction.

You mean meat-heads like Incog in the military & Ivory Tower Academic types like JM?