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Run the Ball + Stop the Run = Success

You have to be able to run the ball, especially against a team like Seattle whose entire defensive strategy is predicated on getting away with illegal contact.

For what it's worth, I think Chip Kelly has absolutely the right idea about rushing the football. Chip and Gus know what's up. You don't run to 'control the clock.' You run to pick up yards and score points, and wear down the other team. Wearing down the other team involves lengthening the game, not shortening it.

Joe Philbin seems like a guy who is willing to take unconventional approaches. I hope he considers that.
 
When you dominate at the los you win, without cornfed and Dline you lose, period.
 
ITS!MATEO said:
When you dominate at the los you win, without cornfed and Dline you lose, period.
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Hell yeah. Did you see some of the push and openings made by the OL's in this playoff's? There was more done in a game than Miller and DT saw in a year. OK, maybe an exaggeration but, not by much.
 
Hayden Fox said:
It is a QB driven league, but you can help the Qb immensely by running the ball well and stopping the run. By running the ball it slows a pass rush down, sets up even more effective play action and puts the team in a better 3rd situation. For someone like RT, he can even bootleg off of a strong running game.

By stopping the run, it makes teams one dimensional…hence 3rd and long situations in which a team like Miami with some good pass rushers can get after the passer. In theory, by having longer 3rd down situations, the D has a better chance of getting of the field earlier in the possession, giving the offense more chances in the game.

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Last Miami threw it 65% of the time. That is way too much and balance is needed.
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Should we be concerned going into next season that the Dolphins will yet again emphasize the pass disproportionally more than the run? I ask this because it was clear in few interviews earlier in the year that Sherman "supposedly" had no problem running the ball. But it was in-fact Joe Philbin that didn't like running the ball and would chose to throw it 100% of the time if he could.

^^If true? Then this scares the crap out of me. Not only because we may once more be a pass heavy team. But, we may not place a higher priority on getting the pieces that would make us a respectable run-capable team.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
Of the teams still alive, the team with the lowest rushing attempts per game is the Denver Broncos - at 28.8 (11th in the NFL).

Seattle - 31.8 (2nd)
New England - 29.4 (9th)

SF - 31.6 (3rd)
Carolina - 30.2 (7th)
SD - 30.4 (6th)

By contrast, Miami averaged 21.8 (29th).
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It would be interesting to know how often those teams run against stacked boxes. For example the Broncos may never run vs a loaded box whereas teams like the Jets and Bills (5th and 1st respectively at attempts) may always run vs a loaded box. At the end of the day the play of the QB is what will make the running game successful, not the other way around.

The dilemma of always being up against a loaded box is an interesting one and I have no idea of the best way to attack it. You can force rushing attempts like the Jets and Bills or just continue to always pass like we do, but at the end of the day the results were the same.
 
LandShark13 said:
And yet the week before Alex Smith threw 4 TDs with ZERO interceptions and lost... The only stat that truly matters at the end of the day is posted game long on the scoreboard.
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Not sure what you're point is. Are you saying we should ignore the intracacies of the game
 
Harry_Bagpipe said:
Not sure what you're point is. Are you saying we should ignore the intracacies of the game
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No of course not. This is a fan forum what fun would that be? What I'm saying pinning your teams direction and where we should place the teams emphasis would change week to week if we followed the direction of this thread. There are many different ways to win a game, we all know or should know this by now. Pick a direction and stick with it and work your ass off to become the best at it and you will see success no matter if its running the ball, passing the ball or as we have seen some teams do and rely on your defense to win you games.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
You have to be able to run the ball, especially against a team like Seattle whose entire defensive strategy is predicated on getting away with illegal contact.

For what it's worth, I think Chip Kelly has absolutely the right idea about rushing the football. Chip and Gus know what's up. You don't run to 'control the clock.' You run to pick up yards and score points, and wear down the other team. Wearing down the other team involves lengthening the game, not shortening it.

Joe Philbin seems like a guy who is willing to take unconventional approaches. I hope he considers that.
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One thing that stands out to me is Foles had a passer rating of 105 vs Drew Brees rating of 76. From what I've discovered good coaches rarely lose when their QB has a rating of 100+ and I suspect when they do its because the opposing QB also had a great game. I had the game on but wasn't really paying attention so I can't say if he made any strategic errors but if Kelly is a great coach there is no way he should have lost that game with his QB playing so well.
 
ANUFan said:
Should we be concerned going into next season that the Dolphins will yet again emphasize the pass disproportionally more than the run? I ask this because it was clear in few interviews earlier in the year that Sherman "supposedly" had no problem running the ball. But it was in-fact Joe Philbin that didn't like running the ball and would chose to throw it 100% of the time if he could.

^^If true? Then this scares the crap out of me. Not only because we may once more be a pass heavy team. But, we may not place a higher priority on getting the pieces that would make us a respectable run-capable team.
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You can see why I do not get along with Joe "professionally". I hate how he coaches. I hate his game plans. I hate the design. I hate how he changed the defense. i hate the finesse approach. I hate the lack of motivation skills.

I just cannot warm to Joe.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Hell yeah. Did you see some of the push and openings made by the OL's in this playoff's? There was more done in a game than Miller and DT saw in a year. OK, maybe an exaggeration but, not by much.
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Exactly, i'm watching the panthers Oline create holes left and right and I can't help but think how many long runs Miller could get with a line like that.. we need to fix that asap.
 
Hayden Fox said:
You can see why I do not get along with Joe "professionally". I hate how he coaches. I hate his game plans. I hate the design. I hate how he changed the defense. i hate the finesse approach. I hate the lack of motivation skills.

I just cannot warm to Joe.
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I was open to him, But I have not seen him do much to thrill us.
He is great at knowing when to challenge a play on the field. That is all I have seen.
I hated him hiring Sherman and letting Sherman dictate and influence the QB decision and so far it seems to have been bad. It casts Joe as unexperienced in leadership, to me.
 
Gravity said:
The correlation between win percentage and yards per carry differential is 0.28.

By contrast, the correlation between win percentage and yards per pass attempt differential is 0.77.

Now, does that change in the playoffs as a function of weather? I don't think we really know. I suspect the first correlation may increase somewhat, but I suspect passing efficiency (YPA differential) still drives the bus.
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dude just stfu already with your correlating bs, enough is enough already
 
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