Ryan Tannehill 2013: QB Pressure, Completion %, Deep Passing, & YPA Statistics

[Shouright]

Lol at the idea of a running game no effect on how effective a passing game is. Watch some football

Well if it's so readily apparent from watching the game, then why isn't it also readily apparent in the numbers?

Why doesn't Tannehill play better when the running game fares better, and worse when the running game fares worse?

As always, I'm happy to learn and be enlightened, but "watch some football" isn't going to do it for me, personally. There are plenty of urban myths about the game of football.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Lol at the idea of a running game no effect on how effective a passing game is. Watch some football

Trolls gonna troll. Haters gonna hate.

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Well if it's so readily apparent from watching the game, then why isn't it also readily apparent in the numbers?

Why doesn't Tannehill play better when the running game fares better, and worse when the running game fares worse?

As always, I'm happy to learn and be enlightened, but "watch some football" isn't going to do it for me, personally. There are plenty of urban myths about the game of football.

Your attempts to use stats are FLAWED. Every time you try your game-to-game BS, you make the very same mistake. Every time. It has been pointed out over and over. You are incapable or unwilling to understand it.

 

[Shouright]

Ready? Not likely, but what the hell, I'll try....... 3.8 > 3.74. Jesus, I can't believe that is even necessary.......

"Bogus analysis that shows a lack of awareness of statistical principles."

Already covered this dozens of times.

Funny, I can't remember a once.

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Your attempts to use stats are FLAWED. Every time you try your game-to-game BS, you make the very same mistake. Every time. It has been pointed out over and over. You are incapable or unwilling to understand it.

Again, happy to learn. Please, provide the correct analysis. Or have you already done that dozens of times?

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

"Bogus analysis that shows a lack of awareness of statistical principles."

Math challenged are you?

Funny, I can't remember a once.

Search function is your friend,

Again, happy to learn.

No you're not.

Please, provide the correct analysis. Or have you already done that dozens of times?

Correct. Not playing your games any more. Just going to refute your statements. Use the search function if your memory is so flawed.

 

[nick1]

the leagues #1 passer had the best rushing attack. Nick Foles 119 passer rating, Eagles had a 160 ypg #1 in the NFL is that a coincidence? I think not Wilson, Manning, Rivers, McCown, and Rodgers were the QBs with a passer rating over 100. each of their teams averaged over 100 ypg rushing. the 1 exception to this was Drew Brees his team averaged 92 ypg rushing

 

[Shouright]

Math challenged are you?

Obviously you're not aware of or don't understand how the significance of the difference between two numbers within a range of numbers is informed by the standard deviation from the average of that range of numbers. So actually I'd say it's you who's "challenged."

Use the search function if your memory is so flawed.

I'll pass. I'm pretty familiar with what you've offered in the past. Nothing but a theoretical critique, rather than anything close to an objective analysis of the variables of interest.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Obviously you're not aware of or don't understand how the significance of the difference between two numbers within a range of numbers is informed by the standard deviation from the average of that range of numbers. So actually I'd say it's you who's "challenged."

Tannehill's avg air yards per attempt is ABOVE AVERAGE.

3.8 > 3.74

Haters gonna hate.

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I'll pass. I'm pretty familiar with what you've offered in the past. Nothing but a theoretical critique, rather than anything close to an objective analysis of the variables of interest.

Translation? "la, la, la, la, la, la..... I'm not listening to you!!!"

Haters gonna hate.

 

[tazthenomad]

3.8 > 3.74

Haters gonna hate.

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Translation? "la, la, la, la, la, la..... I'm not listening to you!!!"

Haters gonna hate.

You know you're wasting your time, right? I appreciate your tenacity but you can't explain something to someone who doesn't want to hear it.

 

[roy_miami]

the leagues #1 passer had the best rushing attack. Nick Foles 119 passer rating, Eagles had a 160 ypg #1 in the NFL is that a coincidence? I think not Wilson, Manning, Rivers, McCown, and Rodgers were the QBs with a passer rating over 100. each of their teams averaged over 100 ypg rushing. the 1 exception to this was Drew Brees his team averaged 92 ypg rushing

Its not a coincidence. Have you heard the expression "pass to set up the run and run to set up the pass?" I believe that is what we're trying to do on offense but we're getting stuck by not being able to pass against loaded boxes so our running game never gets "set up."

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

You know you're wasting your time, right? I appreciate your tenacity but you can't explain something to someone who doesn't want to hear it.

I know. I'm not wasting the energy I was before, but I will not let this guy pollute this message board with bogus nonsense.

 

[Shouright]

the leagues #1 passer had the best rushing attack. Nick Foles 119 passer rating, Eagles had a 160 ypg #1 in the NFL is that a coincidence? I think not Wilson, Manning, Rivers, McCown, and Rodgers were the QBs with a passer rating over 100. each of their teams averaged over 100 ypg rushing. the 1 exception to this was Drew Brees his team averaged 92 ypg rushing

The correlation between QB rating and rushing yards per game in 2013 was 0.375.

 

[Shouright]

You know you're wasting your time, right? I appreciate your tenacity but you can't explain something to someone who doesn't want to hear it.

Doesn't want to hear what?

There are plenty of "supervisors" here who want to sit back and critique other people's analyses, without providing any of their own. When you'd like to provide something of your own, let me know.

 

[tazthenomad]

I know. I'm not wasting the energy I was before, but I will not let this guy pollute this message board with bogus nonsense.

I was where you are a while back but I've come to the conclusion that Shou/Gravity will continue to post regardless and the board either buys in or not based on his conclusions - not his statistics. I doubt if most of the board is interested in hearing us argue about the validity of his methods and logic. While it pains me to see statistical methods get a bad name his posts are no worse than some of the posts based on Bleacher Report speculations, etc.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

Because the assumption is that the only difference between NE (the division winner) and Miami is Brady vs Tannehill. That is delusional. WE WERE THE WORST PASS BLOCKING LINE IN THE LEAGUE AND THE 26TH RANKED RUSHING TEAM. Why the hell to posters on this message board keep ignoring the fact that this team had serious issues that are unrelated to the QB?

its a big difference.

the colts have no o line and no run game, yet the reason they r in the playoffs and playing as we speak is because of good qb play.

good qb play lifts a teams offense. as the qb goes, so goes the offense.

 

[Shouright]

I know. I'm not wasting the energy I was before, but I will not let this guy pollute this message board with bogus nonsense.

You believe 3.8 to be "above average" in sample of data in which the average is 3.74 and the standard deviation is 0.47, but it's my "pollution" you're compelled to address.