At this point can the mods just sticky a thread at the top of the forum titled " shouright/gravity selective statistical analysis; FinfaninBuffalo pissing into the wind mega thread." I don't know why you even try FinfaninBuffalo, Shou isn't going to agree with you at any point because you cannot produce numbers that back your beliefs. The problem is you're trying to win a debate where the person you're attempting to debate is making all of the rules, and he's making them as he goes. This argument is like watching a christian and an atheist argue the existence of god, the christian says you can't prove god doesn't exist to the atheist. The atheist says you can't prove he does to the christian. The Christian says my faith says he does, the atheist says my lack of faith says he doesn't. Nobody ever wins, nobody ever will win.