Ryan Tannehill’s Regenexx Experience

[Phinsguy]

"Tannehill detractor either conveniently or obliviously parses facts creating narrative that ignores professional recommendation by the most preeminent ACL surgeon to the NFL."

Tannehill protector either purposely or delusionally thinks he can never do wrong and refuses to believe or denies that he is capable of erring or making bad decisions.....said errors or bad decisions are ALWAYS someone else's fault and he can never be held accountable for anything.

Let's see.....it's the O Line's fault, it's the coaching, it's the playcalling, it's the WR's, it's the lack of a running game, it's the.....and on and on. But, off in a new tangent, you went and added to all that...now it's the fault of "most preeminent ACL surgeon to the NFL" as to how Tannehill wound up in his latest predicament. Sounds not too delusional.

Ryan Tannehill = Mr. Untouchable (to his disciples).

 

[maralieus]

Wish I could give more than one like for that ****.

 

[BigNastyFish]

The pre-med thing keeps coming up in discussions about his decision. Not sure how basic level biochem, organic chemistry, etc. is going to help him make medical decisions.

Precisely the point -- HIS decision cost us a wasted season with veil Cutler.

Tho of course it sure helped our 2018 draft position.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

What is Dr James Andrews? Chicken Soup?

No, he's snake oil. He sold this treatment with his reputation, and it's a load of crap.

 

[Pandarilla]

Interesting decision to start with him documentary style in his car. Then go with a more levitra body. Then end with several drone shots.

 

[Laser13]

What was with the weird feet in the sand thing??

In my version of that infomercial, Tannehill slowly carves out the letters ‘Mike T.’ with his feet into that broiling sand.

You can hear music softly come from the background, and The Sound of Silence can be heard with ascending notes.

The camera slowly pans to a beached whale in the background, unmoving and glistening in the fiery rays. The curtain closes.

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/beached-whale.jpg

 

[Gonzo]

Precisely the point -- HIS decision cost us a wasted season with veil Cutler.

Tho of course it sure helped our 2018 draft position.

His decision based on the information of multiple surgeons and physicians.

 

[Vaark]

Tannehill protector either purposely or delusionally thinks he can never do wrong and refuses to believe or denies that he is capable of erring or making bad decisions.....said errors or bad decisions are ALWAYS someone else's fault and he can never be held accountable for anything.

Let's see.....it's the O Line's fault, it's the coaching, it's the playcalling, it's the WR's, it's the lack of a running game, it's the.....and on and on. But, off in a new tangent, you went and added to all that...now it's the fault of "most preeminent ACL surgeon to the NFL" as to how Tannehill wound up in his latest predicament. Sounds not too delusional.

Ryan Tannehill = Mr. Untouchable (to his disciples).

habitual Tannewhiner since misery loves company.

 

[Crump]

The one thing I will say and who knows maybe I mentioned it when he first opted for this type of recovery process.. I had to travel a lot for my job a couple years back, if the hotel had a bar I was gonna be there a) cause I like to drink b) cause I was bored and alone in big cities where I didn't know anyone c) cause my wifey said no strip clubs or going out to bars. I met a fella prob 50ish at one of the bars in Kennesaw, GA and we were having a few drinks. He was sort of braggy to some of the girls sitting around, talking about all his adventures in life. After they left he told me that he tore his knee (or ankle, cant remember) skiing in switz. I mentioned a friend who had ACL surgery. he said "no stem cells is the way to go, my knee (or ankle..it was 2 years ago.. plus I was drinking) is stronger than it was before I hurt it" and then he went into details for awhile about how great it was and how it was such a better option than surgery if I ever get hurt (he wasn't in the field so don't think he was gaining anything). Granted he was just a business man, but he made me positive about Tannehills recovery when I heard that was the route he was going.

But it could always be a freak thing, you could have a tree fall through your car drivers side window, and you replace it with a stronger window. then dang if another tree doesn't fall on the rear drivers side window and bust it. just because one thing is stronger or fixed, doesn't mean the parts around it are stronger or cant be damaged. was thinking that the second injury was slightly different than the first and not exactly at the same location.

 

[The Goat]

Did you even read what you linked?....or, as usual, just reading into it/seeing as you want it to be. Here's a quote:

"Mr. Tannehill suffered a partially torn ACL and MCL injury last December. After consulting with physicians, Mr. Tannehill chose to undergo stem cell treatment at the time hoping to return to play this season."

Yes, it says he consulted with physicians (including James Andrews)...but it didn't say what their professional opinion or recommendation was, only saying Tannehill consulted with them and then he (Tannehill) "chose to undergo stem cell treatment". For instance, there is nothing there saying Dr Andrews/Dr Uribe agreed that the stem cell treatment was the best option....only that Tannehill decided to go that route after getting their input....For all we know they may have counseled against the stem cell thing and suggested surgery as the best option (or, more likely, a combination of both - it was done like that with Jamaal Charles, Google it).

And it's very clear that this was Tannehill's decision....you really think the team would rather go with an experimental treatment or unproven one rather than just him having the surgery the first time?

https://www.muirortho.com/stem-cells-for-acl-injury/

"He elected to have his injury treated with rehabilitation and stem cell injections in the hopes of avoiding ACL reconstruction surgery.

His attempts to avoid surgery failed and he ultimately elected to have surgery earlier this month. Unfortunately, he will now miss the entire 2017 season, rather than possibly being recovered from a surgery that he could have had done in January."

"the jury is still out on the optimal utilization and formulation of these injections. ...The reality is that we are still working out the details with respect to which injuries are most reliably treated with injection-based therapy and which are not."

And, yes, at the end of the article they say it was "reasonable" that he chose to try it this way only as we've seen....it didn't work out.

You are absolutely making stuff up. "Very clear?" Hardly. He was examined by both physicians. It's not like the consultation was him picking up the phone and talking to them.

You should probably stick with "For all we know."

 

[The Goat]

Tannehill protector either purposely or delusionally thinks he can never do wrong and refuses to believe or denies that he is capable of erring or making bad decisions.....said errors or bad decisions are ALWAYS someone else's fault and he can never be held accountable for anything.

Let's see.....it's the O Line's fault, it's the coaching, it's the playcalling, it's the WR's, it's the lack of a running game, it's the.....and on and on. But, off in a new tangent, you went and added to all that...now it's the fault of "most preeminent ACL surgeon to the NFL" as to how Tannehill wound up in his latest predicament. Sounds not too delusional.

Ryan Tannehill = Mr. Untouchable (to his disciples).

Tannehill hater purposely misrepresenting things, or extrapolating information to portray his opinions as facts, then accusing anyone who disagrees with them of "living under a rock."

Stay classy.

 

[Phinsguy]

habitual Tannewhiner since misery loves company.

Well....I'll say this...Tannehill gives myself and others the reasons to keep whining.....that's a gift from him that keeps on giving.

 

[Phinsguy]

You are absolutely making stuff up. "Very clear?" Hardly. He was examined by both physicians. It's not like the consultation was him picking up the phone and talking to them.

You should probably stick with "For all we know."

Agreed...."For all we know" would have probably been better - however, just about every story I've read on this said he made the choice to avoid surgery so that kind of makes it clear in connection to what I was saying - "it's very clear that this was Tannehill's decision".

The point still is, yes , he consulted & was examined by them but he made the final decision to not have surgery and go with the experimental treatment. So far I have seen nothing to say the team doctors or any specialists chose the experimental & unproven procedure as what would be the first choice....again, if you had to guess, which way would you think the team would decide if they had the final say?

 

[LoneStarPhin]

i think what pisses off so many in the anti RT camp about his decision is that they saw firsthand how bad this team sucks without Tannehill.

And niw when he returns and we look like a new team, theyre going to look even more foolish- if thats possible.

so yeah, take your shots now since your keyboard will be covered in cobwebs by mid October.

 

[FSU Truth]

Agreed...."For all we know" would have probably been better - however, just about every story I've read on this said he made the choice to avoid surgery so that kind of makes it clear in connection to what I was saying - "it's very clear that this was Tannehill's decision".

The point still is, yes , he consulted & was examined by them but he made the final decision to not have surgery and go with the experimental treatment. So far I have seen nothing to say the team doctors or any specialists chose the experimental & unproven procedure as what would be the first choice....again, if you had to guess, which way would you think the team would decide if they had the final say?

I'm sure he was presented with both options, Dr. Andrews must have done one hell of a sales job on the experimental treatment, making claims and most likely giving him examples of positive results. Option 1: have the surgery and hopefully be back ready to go by midseason or an experimental approach and be ready at the start of training camp. I think given the options, many would have gone with option B to be ready to start camp. I can't fault any player who would take the advice of the leading authority on ligaments damage and repair if it meant he could be ready to go at the start of camp essentially saving months of rehab time.

I do think that this hurts Dr. Andrews reputation and it serves as a very good warning to other not to go this route.