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adamprez2003 said:
This is a ridiculous way to motivate performance. This is college amateur hour. You chose Gus, now stand behind him. Don't let the press know you're unsure of your choice. Grow up Saban
In my personal opinion. Saban is just as wishy washy on this subject as Wanny was.

Pick your guy & let him know he is your guy & that you are gonna sink or swim with him. I do not think you get the best performance out of a QB by threating his job. Now Gus will not make a tough throw because of fear of being picked off.

Gus will play it safe.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Saban needs to stand behind the people he chooses to start. This aint college. Some of you see this as a motivational tool I just see it as a way of Saban avoiding responsibility. Lets say he really doubts that he made the right choice. Fine wait until the bye week and make an readjustment but dont go the media with your doubts. Now you're gonna have Frerotte looking over his shoulder the entire week. You don't think Gus is going to get tight if he has a few incompletes? The only one this motivates is Sage
I think you all are reading too much into it. Saban can say whatever he wants and he also can do anything he wants. He's the coach. Saban needs to coach this team and choose the QB whatever way he feels necessary to win games. He is not "avoiding responsibility", he doesn not have sh** at QB and is answering questions from the media who are trying to get him to say who is the starter. Frerotte will not look over his shoulder. The guy has been in the league for 12 years, he knows what he needs to do.
 
Dphins4me said:
In my personal opinion. Saban is just as wishy washy on this subject as Wanny was.

Pick your guy & let him know he is your guy & that you are gonna sink or swim with him. I do not think you get the best performance out of a QB by threating his job. Now Gus will not make a tough throw because of fear of being picked off.

Gus will play it safe.

Exactly. preseason is over. make your move and stick to it. Noone says you cant change your mind but dont show doubt before the first snap has been played!
 
1334 said:
I think you all are reading too much into it. Saban can say whatever he wants and he also can do anything he wants. He's the coach. Saban needs to coach this team and choose the QB whatever way he feels necessary to win games. He is not "avoiding responsibility", he doesn not have sh** at QB and is answering questions from the media who are trying to get him to say who is the starter. Frerotte will not look over his shoulder. The guy has been in the league for 12 years, he knows what he needs to do.
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I hate myself for this but dammit bring in Couch.
 
Phycic said:
I hate myself for this but dammit bring in Couch.
my first thought was "I hate you too", but that just isn't cool considering I don't know you. Couch is not the answer IMHO! He is a proven loser. We need an unproven with potential or a starting caliber QB. Couch Sucks.
 
I just wish that Gus, Chambers, Boston, and Booker would all stay after practice for an hour each day and work on timing out the long balls.

And we start the best 5 pass blocking OL.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Saban needs to stand behind the people he chooses to start. This aint college. Some of you see this as a motivational tool I just see it as a way of Saban avoiding responsibility. Lets say he really doubts that he made the right choice. Fine wait until the bye week and make an readjustment but dont go the media with your doubts. Now you're gonna have Frerotte looking over his shoulder the entire week. You don't think Gus is going to get tight if he has a few incompletes? The only one this motivates is Sage

This is misinformed. No matter what level of athletics, people get motivated differently.

Some people need that "ra-ra let's kill them" cheerleading. Others need "everyone is against us" cheerleading. But, there are more complex personalities out there.

Some people feed off of their own success. Others feed off of their own failures. Some people wither under a challenge to their job while others strengthen.

It takes all types to make up a team.

But, if you look at what Saban has said it goes along these lines: He wants guys who are mentally tough. He wants guys who get stronger during adversity. He wants guys who can run through a brick wall after running 30 minutes of gassers if they need to dig it out of their gut.

What you are suggesting is utopia. There are many more levels to human beings than "I am professional, therefore I will execute every play like it is my last."
 
laxcoach said:
This is misinformed. No matter what level of athletics, people get motivated differently.

Some people need that "ra-ra let's kill them" cheerleading. Others need "everyone is against us" cheerleading. But, there are more complex personalities out there.

Some people feed off of their own success. Others feed off of their own failures. Some people wither under a challenge to their job while others strengthen.

It takes all types to make up a team.

But, if you look at what Saban has said it goes along these lines: He wants guys who are mentally tough. He wants guys who get stronger during adversity. He wants guys who can run through a brick wall after running 30 minutes of gassers if they need to dig it out of their gut.

What you are suggesting is utopia. There are many more levels to human beings than "I am professional, therefore I will execute every play like it is my last."

No wonder he picked Gus as the starter.... :lol:
 
Saban has done I think a good job ... so far. Now having said that ... he does seem to be a proven winner who can judge talent and motivate ..I saw him coach here at toledo years ago and was very sorry to see him go...so he gets my vote for now on how to handle this screwed situation...I think its sad that people on here think that a qb wont preform because of fear of losing his job or pressure the coach puts on them! these guys are getting paid a good chunk of change to play those posisitions and honestly if they cant handle it i am sure it is not because of saban "suggesting" he may have to bring someone in to relieve a poorly performing player.If that is true of any of our qb's then they are worthless to us any way. I just dont get the logic in trying to blame Saban for trying to get someone ANYONE to step up!! Its not like we are replacing an aging dan marino here these guys are journey men at best and Saban should treat them as such...good job saban~!
 
My point is you can use this language during the preseason and you can and should have this attitude during the regular season but what I'm saying is you dont go to the media with this college "we'll see week to week" stuff. You've just told the entire offense that the quarterback you're going to war with next week may not be around the following. This type of motivation simply doesnt work in the pros.
 
adamprez2003 said:
This is a ridiculous way to motivate performance. This is college amateur hour. You chose Gus, now stand behind him. Don't let the press know you're unsure of your choice. Grow up Saban

I think you are completely wrong interpreting Saban's statements this way. It has been painfully obvious throughout the training camps and preseason games that Saban is demanding that someone step up in a commanding way and demand (figuratively) the QB position. Saban is not "unsure of his choice", he is making everyone aware that he knows the state of Miami's QB position and is putting Frerotte on notice that he is not beyond reproach, or demotion if the circumstances warrant it. The naive thing to do is to thoroughly assess the QB situation and decide the competition on potential, an ethereal ability, or the fading memory of one pass in the waning moments of an otherwise inconsequential football game. That is the sort of decisionmaking that can be found in optimist football in suburbia. Those are the decisions that are made in a friendly game of two hand touch. "hey Jim, can you through the ball far?" "yeah, I can through it to that house over there, watch" ... "Ok, you are the QB... everyone go deep".
 
adamprez2003 said:
Now you're gonna have Frerotte looking over his shoulder the entire week. You don't think Gus is going to get tight if he has a few incompletes? The only one this motivates is Sage

If Gus can't play under pressure we DON'T need him. We won't win any superbowls with a qb that can't play under pressure. The goal is supposed to be to win the superbowl!!! Not to finish 8-8 and just miss the playoffs. If you think Tom Brady would suck if Belichek said he would play the best player... Your wrong!!! I think Brady would actually play harder to prove himself. Tom Brady makes alot of big passes under pressure and he never gets tight. If Gus gets tight, We won't win the SB with him so we might as well play the best player and see what we've got in them. Maybe one of them is a Super Bowl caliber QB. If not we look elsewhere.
 
Phycic said:
I hate myself for this but dammit bring in Couch.


well looks like we waited to long on couch cause a buddy of mine said he was coaching now in high school or something:eek:
 
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