Saban & Mcmicheal

[Dolphin North]

Who gives a crap...I want to win football games.....They can have Saddam Hussein at Quarterback and if he played great...I would support him.

Please don't think that all these NFL players are all quoir boys....Randy McMichael just happened to get caught.

If anything...The Dolphins should try to bribe a judge in Georgia or something....

If you want to win, you should remember that letting players get away with this kind of thing eventually ruins a team quite often. Discipline (within reason) is important. Discipline not only applies to behaviour and staying out of trouble and abiding by team rules, but also in your approach and preparation to the game. These all go hand in hand I believe. Letting a good player get away with this completely shows all players that a "me first" attitude is ok if you are good enough. That erodes team chemistry as other players who work hard but are not as gifted do not get nearly the same treatment. I think some of the other posters saying a few games suspension would go a long way are right.

I guess I just wanted to say to you that yes, battery is wrong (which you know already) but a suspension would also eventually help the team as a whole, from the point of view of discipline and chemistry. Two things that are essential in winning.

Also, I think Saddam would not be a good QB. He's too old and not very mobile. His decision making is not very good. Although he is in prison and is therefore working out with his right arm quite regularly I hear his arm strength is not what it used to be.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

this issue has nothing to do with football and he does not violate any nfl policy that would enable him an advantage over other ball players while competing so therefore, this is a matter that should be handled exclusively within the realm the law, without interfering with football. if i hit my wife i do not think my boss will consider it detrimental to my job performance.

I didn't read the entire thread, so forgive me if this is repetitive: wouldn't you think this issue has everything to do with football if it happened during the season? It's already going to impact training camp, if for no other reason than the distraction.

Some statement needs to be made.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

If you want to win, you should remember that letting players get away with this kind of thing eventually ruins a team quite often. Discipline (within reason) is important. Discipline not only applies to behaviour and staying out of trouble and abiding by team rules, but also in your approach and preparation to the game. These all go hand in hand I believe. Letting a good player get away with this completely shows all players that a "me first" attitude is ok if you are good enough. That erodes team chemistry as other players who work hard but are not as gifted do not get nearly the same treatment. I think some of the other posters saying a few games suspension would go a long way are right.

I guess I just wanted to say to you that yes, battery is wrong (which you know already) but a suspension would also eventually help the team as a whole, from the point of view of discipline and chemistry. Two things that are essential in winning.

Also, I think Saddam would not be a good QB. He's too old and not very mobile. His decision making is not very good. Although he is in prison and is therefore working out with his right arm quite regularly I hear his arm strength is not what it used to be.

EXACTLY!

suspend-away Nick!

 

[dolfan4good]

EXACTLY!

suspend-away Nick!

You guys really think that suspending him will stop him from abusing his wife? Come on guys, he needs some massive type of therapy. If he's suspended until he completes that therapy, then the suspension would have some inpact.

 

[dolfanrodney]

Personally I don't want to lose the guy. I would fine him $50,000 and make him take anger management and counseling asap and unless he shows he has made severe progress by the start of the season then suspend him 3 games. I don't at all go for hitting woman and with the crap my x wife did if I did not deck her *** for that then nobody should touch a woman like that.

 

[BlueFin]

I think how saban treats this situation could mean a lot towards how he runs this team. This is our best offensive player, and argueably the best on the team at times. If Saban puts his foot down hard on McMicheal it would truly show how serious hes going to be around the league.

Do you think McMicheal should be suspended?

I disagree that he is our best offensive player and he certainly is not the best player on the team.

I would think if the facts of this case are as bad as they look right now, McMichael has done serious damage to his big contract possibilities in the near future.

If he has committed criminal acts he will certainly pay thru the justice system.

You cannot impose penalties on him from the football team right now until all the facts come out, as he may be ruled innocent in court.

Saban will handle this correctly.

 

[ch19079]

Who cares what you remember?

Are you a Dolphins season ticket holder?

1) i care. and alot of other people do to. if you dont care, than thats your problem.

2) no. and im not a bills season ticket holder eather. (kinda hard to get to buffalo from NC every weekend). but that doenst matter eather. im a football fan. and fans of the game should be atleast disapointed when one of its better players is arested for beating his wife.

 

[BlueFin]

Personally I don't want to lose the guy. I would fine him $50,000 and make him take anger management and counseling asap and unless he shows he has made severe progress by the start of the season then suspend him 3 games. I don't at all go for hitting woman and with the crap my x wife did if I did not deck her *** for that then nobody should touch a woman like that.

It depends on the circumstances, a person always has the right to defend themselves from attack, even from a woman.

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt untill all the facts come out before we convict and sentence him.

 

[Dolphin North]

You guys really think that suspending him will stop him from abusing his wife? Come on guys, he needs some massive type of therapy. If he's suspended until he completes that therapy, then the suspension would have some inpact.

Absolutely. But with ongoing therapy even after the suspension. If the guy wants the help even if it is not to get out of the suspension and back on teh team, , that would be a good sign too.

 

[touborg]

She should have made him the damn sandwich!

 

[templarwd]

I want to win too- we all want to win. But I don't need a wife-beater on my team. This was his second offense- not his first- second. The guy's got a problem.

Wrong ! Just plain WRONG! Neither he, nor his wife, was convicted in the 1st incident. And let's put our thinking caps on, HE called the police on HER. The DA dropped the charges and sent them both to counceling. Guess that wasn't very effective.

 

[Raekwon The Che]

Saban will know how to deal with him. Some of you guys are out of your mind, thinking he deserves to get a 3 game suspension

 

[#84Fan4Life]

I don't understand why so many of you are bashing McMike with nothing being proven yet. Let the events unfold before casting judgment.

I want to know why so many of you are willing to take a player back that did far worse damage to the team yet without any exact facts coming out you want to abandon a player that gives his all on the field. No, hitting anybody and especially a woman is not right but Ricky committed a sin that is far worse to the overall team. McMike has personal issues that he needs to deal with without people casting judgment before all the facts are even out.

Then how about all of you that want Ty Law here? You do remember a few years ago when I believe he got a DUI and took off from the cops in Miami don't you? I think that many of you are hypocrites when you are welcoming people like Ricky and Law with one arm and now punching McMike with the other.:shakeno: You do know that McMike is innocent until proven guilty right?

 

[islandah]

this issue has nothing to do with football and he does not violate any nfl policy that would enable him an advantage over other ball players while competing so therefore, this is a matter that should be handled exclusively within the realm the law, without interfering with football. if i hit my wife i do not think my boss will consider it detrimental to my job performance.

The issue is not whether it is directly related to football or that we're ok with wife-beating. It is simply that his history now makes him a riskier player to rely on. Boston is not on a short leash because anybody cares about airport gate agents or the right or wrong of steroids- it is because he is a risk to have a melt down or test positive. McMichael is now becoming one of those risky players to have on your team.

You can bet that both Ricky and Boston will end up with contracts that allow us to dump them cheaply at the first sign of trouble. I think McMike has earned a similar clause. And BTW, your boss would consider it detrimental to your job if he thought there was a reasonable chance you would be unavailable due to jail/court/etc. when he needed you.

 

[jtoomuch]

The guy has an issue with hitting his wife- it's the second time he's done it. Whether he lightly slaps her or beats her within an inch of her life doesn't really matter to me. YOU DON'T HIT WOMEN. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

OK, but why is it the responsibility of a professional football team to make a social statement?