Samson Satele?

[Phinatic99]

I agree with most here...we need a plug and play center that is not a guard...He may not be the best center in football, but he would serve a purpose until Pouncy gets healthy....

This is what Hickey should be doing right now:

http://youtu.be/8Ad19wrWmKY

 

[marinotoclayton]

I'll say this he may not be the best center but he has been a starter everywhere he has been! So obviously he had enough talent to win starters jobs in Oakland and Indy! As it is we may not need him all year but he would be insurance in case worse case happens! And its. Not like the experiments we have going on now are working!

 

[MrClean]

Exactly. I bet he dfoesn't even make the team. Just bring in Satele and fix this damn problem already.

This is what's so frustrating with this team. Why can't they address problems on the fly? Just make the damn move so this embarrassment ends!

Shelley Smith is definitely making the team, barring injury. If Pouncey was healthy, Smith would have been the starting RG from the get go.

 

[dolphinheel]

Several more botched snaps today. Are you friggin kidding me? Over and under on how many pre-season games go by before we pick up a true center? I say two, which is two games too many for me IMHO.

 

[Sirspud]

LOLZ. We debated throughout the season on how much power he had and it was obvious, at least to me, Philbin didn't have much, so those leaks are evidence I was right, not "revisionist history." The people now trying to pin the o-line personnel, poor offense, bully-gate and even the wildcat on Philbin are the revisionist historians.

O-line: Philbin wanted Albert, Ireland said no
Poor offense: Ireland gave us Hartline and Bess as our top two receivers for the rookie Tannehill. Ireland spent less on offense than every team in the league in 2013 while retaining the fifth most in disposable cap space
Bully-gate: Martin was a spaz, again though, could have been avoided had Ireland made the Albert trade
Wildcat: That was Sparano, who was almost as bad as Ireland

Philbin wasn't responsible for the players on the line, but he was responsible for not making any personnel changes until the McKinney trade and bullygate, even when it was nearly impossible to do worse than what Clabo was doing at RT and with a capable backup in Garner, and he was responsible for letting his QB drop back to make passes and take sack/fumbles in game situations where that was totally unnecessary and pretty likely based on the skill of our line versus the skill of the opponent.

 

[Finland]

talking about exaggerating, its the first 4 practices...if he is still doing it after the first preseason game its gonna be concerning, after 4 practices and getting told he would be the C 2 days before TC started its no issue yet

No it was concerning last week

 

[roy_miami]

Philbin wasn't responsible for the players on the line, but he was responsible for not making any personnel changes until the McKinney trade and bullygate, even when it was nearly impossible to do worse than what Clabo was doing at RT and with a capable backup in Garner, and he was responsible for letting his QB drop back to make passes and take sack/fumbles in game situations where that was totally unnecessary and pretty likely based on the skill of our line versus the skill of the opponent.

Of course Garner was the answer then, even though now people are saying "Garner?!?! We can't do better than ****ing Garner?!?!!"

And lol at letting our QB take sacks. So what, Wildcat? Put Moore in on dangerous plays?

Philbin is system coach. He believes in his system and I don't think he's going to change it because he happens to have an asshat for a GM. And why would he? Clearly his system didn't need a good o-line. He system didn't need a good RB. His system didn't need good linebackers. His system didn't need to be good at stopping the run. His system didn't need a number one WR or a great TE. And his system didn't need a good offensive coordinator. Sure all those things would have helped, but at the end of the day his system needed one thing: good QB play.

If somebody told you before the season you could take a totally random result or guaranteed playoffs but you just needed one more good performance from Tannehill week 17, at home, vs the Jets, which option would you choose? Of course anybody in their right mind would choose the latter. All we needed was one more good game from the QB even in spite of all those other shortcomings. Thanks to Ireland the team is behind schedule at being where Philbin hoped it would be by at least a year, but it is still on the right track, imho anyway.

 

[Sirspud]

Of course Garner was the answer then, even though now people are saying "Garner?!?! We can't do better than ****ing Garner?!?!!"

And lol at letting our QB take sacks. So what, Wildcat? Put Moore in on dangerous plays?

Nate Garner isn't the caliber of player you want in your projected starting lineup. If you go into the season with him penciled into a starter's role, you haven't done your homework on signing or drafting more talented players. He's also a capable backup, and like most capable backups he can step in and take over for a player that is a complete turd pile and do a better job. Garner could have done a better job than Clabo. Garner HAS done a better job than Clabo when given a chance in a Dolphins uniform.

BTW, the alternative to passing the ball is handing off. I don't blame you for not knowing that, seeing as the team you follow doesn't know that either.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

We dont know that....pure speculation.

"I'm going to talk to every single player and every single coach and we'll decide and determine 2014 at a later point in time," he said. "I have a lot of confidence in our staff, our offensive staff, Mike Sherman. He's an excellent football coach. That's what I think." --- Joe Philbin

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...d-according-to-joe-philbin.html#storylink=cpy

 

[NCFINFAN13]

So Philbin gets credit for the bad hires but not the good ones?

Or he gets credit for the good ones but Ireland takes the hit for the bad ones. It works both ways thats why I say "decision making team".

 

[jtoomuch]

We should bring him in right away. At least he can snap the damn ball. Till Pouncey gets back.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

LOLZ. We debated throughout the season on how much power he had and it was obvious, at least to me, Philbin didn't have much, so those leaks are evidence I was right, not "revisionist history." The people now trying to pin the o-line personnel, poor offense, bully-gate and even the wildcat on Philbin are the revisionist historians.

O-line: Philbin wanted Albert, Ireland said no
Poor offense: Ireland gave us Hartline and Bess as our top two receivers for the rookie Tannehill. Ireland spent less on offense than every team in the league in 2013 while retaining the fifth most in disposable cap space
Bully-gate: Martin was a spaz, again though, could have been avoided had Ireland made the Albert trade
Wildcat: That was Sparano, who was almost as bad as Ireland

Let's go back to the begining.
Philbin wanted Albert for the LEFT side. Philbin wanted Ratfink for the RIGHT side ... not a Albert for Ratfink replacement.
I have no arguement that Ireland sucks ... I've been one of his biggest detractors.
Ratfink could have been benched by Philbin, but Lugnut and Ratfink, had Philbin gotten his way with Albert, would have still been on the same O-Line together, thus making the case that bully-gate would have been avoided null and void.
Sparano was a meatheaded goon in my eyes ... again I was one of his biggest detractors.

 

[roy_miami]

"I'm going to talk to every single player and every single coach and we'll decide and determine 2014 at a later point in time," he said. "I have a lot of confidence in our staff, our offensive staff, Mike Sherman. He's an excellent football coach. That's what I think." --- Joe Philbin

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...d-according-to-joe-philbin.html#storylink=cpy

And he went on to say:

"I'm beginning the evaluation of the 2013 season and we haven't made any decisions on who's coming back and who isn't," Philbin said, dodging the question. "We'll have all those discussions at the appropriate time."

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...d-according-to-joe-philbin.html#storylink=cpy

So he could have said "Sherman is an excellent football coach, why in the hell would I fire him?" But he didn't. And I'm pretty sure no coach would out a potential firing before its happened to any reporter let alone Armando.

 

[roy_miami]

Let's go back to the begining.
Philbin wanted Albert for the LEFT side. Philbin wanted Ratfink for the RIGHT side ... not a Albert for Ratfink replacement.
I have no arguement that Ireland sucks ... I've been one of his biggest detractors.
Ratfink could have been benched by Philbin, but Lugnut and Ratfink, had Philbin gotten his way with Albert, would have still been on the same O-Line together, thus making the case that bully-gate would have been avoided null and void.
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And back to the real beginning even before he wanted ratfink at RT or Albert, he wanted Incognito off the team. Meaning "bully-gate" wouldn't have happened.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

And back to the real beginning even before he wanted ratfink at RT or Albert, he wanted Incognito off the team. Meaning "bully-gate" wouldn't have happened.

He wanted him off the team so bad, he continued to start him and allowed him to be the defacto leader on the o-line? Doesn't make sense to me and I don't buy it.