Satele, Nwduke, Alleman????

[Tunaphish429]

Just goes to show you what u can do
When U have a general like penny on the field Even with his flaws he was able to do his thing. You can't overstate what a good qb can do for you. Making the calls. Keeping teams off balance it's not just about guys in the box anymore it's being able to see the plays happen before the ball is even snapped. Chad had that intelligence about him. We also had an easy schedule which certainly helped.


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[DolfanISS]

Just goes to show you what u can do
When U have a general like penny on the field Even with his flaws he was able to do his thing. You can't overstate what a good qb can do for you. Making the calls. Keeping teams off balance it's not just about guys in the box anymore it's being able to see the plays happen before the ball is even snapped. Chad had that intelligence about him. We also had an easy schedule which certainly helped.


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I agree about the easy schedule but Chad was able to win every single game we should have won that year. Many teams with easy schedules still lose.

 

[Sirspud]

And the Ravens playoff game was another. Ngata was killing these guys.

I thought that too, but didn't want to bring it up. There are still too many here who think Chad Pennington lost that game single-handedly. What I saw was a team where all 46 players on the active roster got their butts kicked, Chad included.

 

[footsteps_falco]

Jake Long, Vernon Carey, Justin Smiley, Jake Grove, Joe Berger, Lydon Murtha, Nate Garner, John Jerry, Marc Columbo, Pat McQuistan, Donald Thomas, Samson Satele, Ndukwe, Jon Martin, Richie Incognito, Dallas Thomas, Tyson Clabo, Shawn Murphy, Andrew McDonald, Josh Samuda,

can't think of anymore but feel free to keep adding to that list. either way, not really impressive in my opinion.

No knock on miller or Thomas or bush, but Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, Lousaka Polite, Lex Hilliard, and Anthony Fasano certainly helped those groups

 

[67Stang]

This was the middle of our offensive line the last time we made the playoffs and Chad Pennington was able to do enough to win many games. Granted we had Long and Carey as tackles but I'm wondering how good these guys were and are we that much worse off now? After all I never really heard of Alleman or Nwduke playing elsewhere after the 2008 season. If we overcame it then maybe we can do it again?


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Chad Pennington, though a great guy was an average at best QB. He was stinking it up early and then we broke out the Wildcat. We averaged 21 points a game and a large part of our success was we had the best 4th Quarter Defense in the league that year. As soon as the league figured out the Wildcat, we got smashed and you saw how Chad played in the playoffs and the beginning of the next year. Pennington would have been carted off the 2nd game of the year behind this line!

 

[Sirspud]

Chad Pennington, though a great guy was an average at best QB. He was stinking it up early and then we broke out the Wildcat. We averaged 21 points a game and a large part of our success was we had the best 4th Quarter Defense in the league that year. As soon as the league figured out the Wildcat, we got smashed and you saw how Chad played in the playoffs and the beginning of the next year. Pennington would have been carted off the 2nd game of the year behind this line!

Chad didn't really get much going in those first two games, but consider the circumstances. He was picked up in TC on short notice by a regime that hadn't established any kind of offensive identity and had little idea of who would be starting at skill positions such as WR.

People think way too much about that 4th quarter defense. Our best 4th quarter defense was our offense, where you could give Chad Pennington the ball and a chance to pretty much run out the clock and he would get it done. Time of possession was vastly in our favor in pretty much every gmae but week 16 at KC, where Pennington managed a tremendous comeback in a game that was at the exact opposite pace of what we did in every other game. That 4th quarter defense was also greatly aided by facing bad offenses.

 

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Colt fans don't think much of Satele

 

[DolfanISS]

Right just to be clear my point of this thread was not Pennington vs Tannehill it was that we were a playoff team with an average center and 2 backup (Allemen was a fringe roster guy if I can remember correctly) guards and how that stacks up vs this years group. Obviously Carey and Long were better than McKinnie ( who's actually been very solid) and Clabo but was that interior that much better than Pouncey, garner and Jerry. I know we also pass more nowdo that's a factor.


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[Sirspud]

Right just to be clear my point of this thread was not Pennington vs Tannehill it was that we were a playoff team with an average center and 2 backup (Allemen was a fringe roster guy if I can remember correctly) guards and how that stacks up vs this years group. Obviously Carey and Long were better than McKinnie ( who's actually been very solid) and Clabo but was that interior that much better than Pouncey, garner and Jerry. I know we also pass more nowdo that's a factor.


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Having weak tackles is much more of a liability, especially in the passing game, which is a major impediment to a team's chances of winning because when your back is against the wall facing a deficit with time running out, you have to be able to protect your QB enough to mount that game winning drive.