Schedule Breakdown...who Are We Honestly Better Than??

[DuderinoN703]

Why even guess the preseason? You mentioned Leftwich. Well, I imagine he'll play maybe 1 quarter. If that's enough to beat us, then we're screwed. :D

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

Yes I am. Is there a big comment coming now? Something to the effect of, "oh really cause you're such an idiot?!?!" I just wanted some responses to all the optimism. I made a couple typos in the paragraphs that I wrote in a matter of seconds and so people want to keep pointing it out as if it diverts from the threads purpose. So go ahead with your insult. It's expected.

are you jealous that you cannot be optimistic? Are you looking at these people and thinking, "they are happy, why can't I be?". What in the EFF does it matter that people think Miami are going to beat the Jets. Why start a second thread to try to dash the hopes of Dolphin fans? I am seriously doubting that you are a Dolphin fan. I do believe Miami will be 6-10, however I will never call someone out and try to prove to him that a 10-6 season is impossible. Unless the guy is a fan for another team and I want to burst his bubble.

 

[dreday]

Dude, I have not missed the point, that's exactly why I've written this...to have people finally answer the 'why' question. As to WHY do they all think we should be disappointed with a season finish of less than 10 wins. I just don't get all the optimism without backing it up a bit. People are like "we're gonna be contenders for sure" and I just want some facts to back that up. I made my predictions based on roster changes, coaching factors, season finishes from last year, returning starters, skilled players with leadership, and homefield advantages...all of these actually have an impact. That's why I think if you say we will finish better then you should be able to back it up with better arguements than "dude, we will win. I can feel it."

I think youre drawing these conclusions using too much emphasis on what one player or just one dimension is going to decide an outcome for a game...Theres too many factors to try and predict an outcome judging what is on paper...The game is just too technical with injuries,playbook changes,transactions,to be able to say what even "might" happen..Its hard for Fin fans to have anything but optimism especially after what happened last year...Its ok to be skeptical,but to be cynical before the season even starts is crazy.

 

[ASCII]

Yes I am. Is there a big comment coming now? Something to the effect of, "oh really cause you're such an idiot?!?!" I just wanted some responses to all the optimism. I made a couple typos in the paragraphs that I wrote in a matter of seconds and so people want to keep pointing it out as if it diverts from the threads purpose. So go ahead with your insult. It's expected.

:rofl3: :rofl3: relax man, just busting your balls, holy ****.........do you take medicine for that?

 

[WitheringPlant]

I wrote it all in about 1 minute, so I had some typos...I've fixed them now, by the way, Chad Johnson is the backup QB for Vick...not the reciever for Cinncinatti

Actually Matt Schuab is his backup (was last year too). In fact there isn't a single Chad Johnson on their entire depth chart. Chris Chandler used to be their QB before Vick, thats about it.

 

[FinFanUFGrad]

are you jealous that you cannot be optimistic? Are you looking at these people and thinking, "they are happy, why can't I be?". What in the EFF does it matter that people think Miami are going to beat the Jets. Why start a second thread to try to dash the hopes of Dolphin fans? I am seriously doubting that you are a Dolphin fan. I do believe Miami will be 6-10, however I will never call someone out and try to prove to him that a 10-6 season is impossible. Unless the guy is a fan for another team and I want to burst his bubble.

Dude, it's so funny how you come every time with the "why can't you be optimistic" stuff. I want to think we are good too and think that we have a shot, but I can't just rely on the feelings of dolphin fans to base that thought on. If we are gonna be good, like everyone thinks, then just tell me why. What's wrong with asking that? I live for these games and when we lose by a ton I'm still hanging on every play. So don't question my support of the team bro...I just want to know what makes people think we are gonna be good. If you say that Dumb and Dumber is the greatest original comedy of all time, can I ask you why you think that? If you think Colorado offers the best skiing and snowboarding in the US, then am I wrong for asking you what makes you think that? Whew...excuse me for asking.

 

[FinFanUFGrad]

:rofl3: :rofl3: relax man, just busting your balls, holy ****.........do you take medicine for that?

That's the problem with computer chat...you never know the emotion of the author. I wasn't pissed, just waiting for the punch line. Your response back was really funny though. Seriously. :rofl3:

 

[albyfinfan]

i could agree with all u said b/c it does make sense but that L to Tenn. c'mon Tenn. suckes and were at home i got to go against u on that one

8-8

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

Dude, it's so funny how you come every time with the "why can't you be optimistic" stuff. I want to think we are good too and think that we have a shot, but I can't just rely on the feelings of dolphin fans to base that thought on. If we are gonna be good, like everyone thinks, then just tell me why. What's wrong with asking that? I live for these games and when we lose by a ton I'm still hanging on every play. So don't question my support of the team bro...I just want to know what makes people think we are gonna be good. If you say that Dumb and Dumber is the greatest original comedy of all time, can I ask you why you think that? If you think Colorado offers the best skiing and snowboarding in the US, then am I wrong for asking you what makes you think that? Whew...excuse me for asking.

I guess it is the superior elitist way you are asking then.

Also I think you miss my point everytime I post. I don't care that you are a pessimistic person who can't look at positives. It is just there is no reason to constantly try to convert everyone to your pessimistic ways

 

[popularwar]

I wrote it all in about 1 minute, so I had some typos...I've fixed them now, by the way, Chad Johnson is the backup QB for Vick...not the reciever for Cinncinatti

No, he's not. Matt Schaub is, according to nfl.com there is no one else named Chad Johnson.

 

[Deus Ex Dolphin]

Okay, I'll play along....

Regular Season Results

1 Sun, Sep 11 Denver L (they run a ton, good qb play, champ bailey) we're not better on paper
2 Sun, Sep 18 at NY Jets L (away game, martin and pennington will be healthy)
3 Sun, Sep 25 Carolina L (They are just a man's team, we're still children in comparison)
4 BYE WEEK
5 Sun, Oct 9 at Buffalo W (Qb issues, solid run game and defense...close game)
6 Sun, Oct 16 at Tampa Bay W (aging D, Griese is questionable, gotta stop the run)
7 Sun, Oct 23 Kansas City L (OL are huge, green will have all day, Priest??)
8 Sun, Oct 30 at New Orleans W (I will slap someone who thinks we lose this game...brooks is terrible...they just spent the farm on Mcallister)
9 Sun, Nov 6 Atlanta L (defense is so good, TE, Vick...we lose)
10 Sun, Nov 13 New England W (i think we win this one, Belechick(SP?) vs saban, I think injury finally hits them)
11 Sun, Nov 20 at Cleveland W (this team is horrible all over the board)
12 Sun, Nov 27 at Oakland W (Moss will begin his cancer by now, running game is good, but so is our D, QB is out of gas)
13 Sun, Dec 4 Buffalo L (we will swap wins and losses with all the AFCE this year)
14 Sun, Dec 11 at San Diego L (face it, 12-4 for a reason last year. THey are good, LT, Brees, young good WR)
15 Sun, Dec 18 NY Jets W (Fiedler will lose it for them...)
16 Sat, Dec 24 Tennessee L (Close one, but they are also good...?? at RB, but good WR...real good...McNair is a gamer)
17 Sun, Jan 1 at New England L (we lose in the snow. No doubt)


That's a total of 7 wins and 9 losses. Not based on my gut, but based on what they have versus what we have. IF you disagree, then please back it up with comments. Not homerism. Thanks guys. Look forward to hearing ya out. :)

Regular Season Results

1 Sun, Sep 11 Denver W (questionable D-line, good-at-times qb play, champ bailey can't cover Booker, Boston and Chambers at the same time)

2 Sun, Sep 18 at NY Jets L (away game, martin and pennington will be healthy) Close game though.

3 Sun, Sep 25 Carolina L (They are just a man's team, we're still children in comparison) Running game, deep passes, and solid D, but a close game.

4 BYE WEEK I see another mini-camp from Saban to correct things gone wrong so far.

5 Sun, Oct 9 at Buffalo W (Qb issues, solid run game and defense...close game) Losman is a rookie starter, Phins come out of bye-week with new wrinkles on defense/offense.

6 Sun, Oct 16 at Tampa Bay W (aging D, Griese is questionable, gotta stop the run) Looks about right.

7 Sun, Oct 23 Kansas City W (OL are huge, green will have all day, Priest??) How much better is the Chefs D? A shootout game, tough win at home.


8 Sun, Oct 30 at New Orleans W The Saints just never learned to use the talent they have.

9 Sun, Nov 6 Atlanta W Vick is good, but Saban will have a defense ready for him. Force Vick to stay in the pocket and pass.


10 Sun, Nov 13 New England W (i think we win this one, Belechick(SP?) vs saban, I think injury finally hits them) HUGE game for Saban and the Dolphins. Phins step it up to please new coach. Win by FG.

11 Sun, Nov 20 at Cleveland W (this team is horrible all over the board) Not even a close game this time.

12 Sun, Nov 27 at Oakland W Lots of Raiders offense, little defense.

13 Sun, Dec 4 Buffalo L (we will swap wins and losses with all the AFCE this year) Losman doesn't kill them with a critical TO.

14 Sun, Dec 11 at San Diego L (face it, 12-4 for a reason last year. THey are good, LT, Brees, young good WR) Coast-to-coast trips catch up to exhausted Dolphins.

15 Sun, Dec 18 NY Jets W (Fiedler will lose it for them...) Decent odds Penny is out for this game. Jay is Jay.

16 Sat, Dec 24 Tennessee W McNair plays hurt (as usual this time of year) and they just don't have enough talent on O or D.

17 Sun, Jan 1 at New England L (we lose in the snow. Pats get last second FG, in a game Phins keep close)


So, is that 11-5? :D That means the last game is for the Divison, which will hurt. :cry: If they find a way to sweep the Pats, then it becomes a miracle season as the Phins go on to win the Big Dance!

 

[Motion]

Regular Season Results

1 Sun, Sep 11 Denver L (they run a ton, good qb play, champ bailey) we're not better on paper Should be a close game but I think our front 7 will be very good this year
2 Sun, Sep 18 at NY Jets L (away game, martin and pennington will be healthy) Definitely winnable
3 Sun, Sep 25 Carolina L (They are just a man's team, we're still children in comparison) Tough, close game
4 BYE WEEK
5 Sun, Oct 9 at Buffalo W (Qb issues, solid run game and defense...close game)
6 Sun, Oct 16 at Tampa Bay W (aging D, Griese is questionable, gotta stop the run)
7 Sun, Oct 23 Kansas City L (OL are huge, green will have all day, Priest??)
8 Sun, Oct 30 at New Orleans W (I will slap someone who thinks we lose this game...brooks is terrible...they just spent the farm on Mcallister)
9 Sun, Nov 6 Atlanta L (defense is so good, TE, Vick...we lose)
10 Sun, Nov 13 New England W (i think we win this one, Belechick(SP?) vs saban, I think injury finally hits them)
11 Sun, Nov 20 at Cleveland W (this team is horrible all over the board)
12 Sun, Nov 27 at Oakland W (Moss will begin his cancer by now, running game is good, but so is our D, QB is out of gas)
13 Sun, Dec 4 Buffalo W (we will swap wins and losses with all the AFCE this year Doubtful)
14 Sun, Dec 11 at San Diego L (face it, 12-4 for a reason last year. THey are good, LT, Brees, young good WR)
15 Sun, Dec 18 NY Jets W (Fiedler will lose it for them...)
16 Sat, Dec 24 Tennessee W (Close one, but they are also good(since when?)...?? at RB, but good WR...real good...McNair is a gamer)
17 Sun, Jan 1 at New England L (we lose in the snow. No doubt) The whole "cold weather" thing won't apply much longer


That's a total of 7 wins and 9 losses. Not based on my gut, but based on what they have versus what we have. IF you disagree, then please back it up with comments. Not homerism. Thanks guys. Look forward to hearing ya out. :)

Overall, many of your arguments are flawed, not sure why you think Tennessee is so good? Not even gonna get into the whole "Johnson" arguement cause I knew you had names mixed up. I think the biggest difference from last year that you have to take into account is coaching. We will not be out coached again, like the last couple years.

MO

 

[Orange FinFan]

12-4, because I'm a homer :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :D , seriously its really to hard to guess at this time. I mean what you say could happen but it could very well turn out to be like deus ex dolphin says. (which I hope is the case). But none the less I like to read others perceptions and predictions.

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

I was wonderning how people can look at a schedule and say we'll win that one and w're going to lose that one. How do you guys/gals do in the lottery?
Look at last year, we lost to the Cardinals, but beat St. Louis.

We also lost to one of those Ohio teams (browns/bengals), but beat the Patriots. Any given Sunday. It's all a matter of which team shows up to play and does it in a consistent basis. The Patriots have guys that did it the most consistently last season. They also made few mistakes.

 

[Shamboubou]

Guys...
I tried this thread before, but I think I worded it in a way that incited more opinion that fact. This time, lets focus on the actual teams. I'm doing this, because I got the local radio station the other day and the guy asked me point blank...game by game...who are you legitimately better than. We went one by one and I was using classic phin homer arguements, but he bashed the opinions and said to stick with facts. So outside of using the "patriot game" mentality...where we say anything can happen...how do we beat teams that will be better than us. Not better coached maybe? But actual player against player. I'm only asking this because I want some reasoning behind the obvious madness that we will go 10-6. When and where do you see that happening?? :eek: Here's how I see it and if you question the call then I'll back it up...not just "because" it's what I think...it's what should happen on paper. It's like a regular joe playing MJ back in his day in some hoops. 1 out of a 100 games he could win, but on paper and in real life, MJ mops the floor with him right? Yeah that's right. So what do you think?

Pre-season is a crap shoot but here goes

1 Mon, Aug 8 Chicago W (QB troubles, new WRs)
2 Sat, Aug 13 at Jacksonville L (Leftwich is solid and our sec is ??)
3 Sat, Aug 20 at Pittsburgh L (Pitt is good all over the board)
4 Sat, Aug 27 Tampa Bay W (young team, cadillac will look good though)
5 Thu, Sep 1 Atlanta W (Vick will only play a tad)

Regular Season Results

1 Sun, Sep 11 Denver L (they run a ton, good qb play, champ bailey) we're not better on paper
2 Sun, Sep 18 at NY Jets L (away game, martin and pennington will be healthy)
3 Sun, Sep 25 Carolina L (They are just a man's team, we're still children in comparison)
4 BYE WEEK
5 Sun, Oct 9 at Buffalo W (Qb issues, solid run game and defense...close game)
6 Sun, Oct 16 at Tampa Bay W (aging D, Griese is questionable, gotta stop the run)
7 Sun, Oct 23 Kansas City L (OL are huge, green will have all day, Priest??)
8 Sun, Oct 30 at New Orleans W (I will slap someone who thinks we lose this game...brooks is terrible...they just spent the farm on Mcallister)
9 Sun, Nov 6 Atlanta L (defense is so good, TE, Vick...we lose)
10 Sun, Nov 13 New England W (i think we win this one, Belechick(SP?) vs saban, I think injury finally hits them)
11 Sun, Nov 20 at Cleveland W (this team is horrible all over the board)
12 Sun, Nov 27 at Oakland W (Moss will begin his cancer by now, running game is good, but so is our D, QB is out of gas)
13 Sun, Dec 4 Buffalo L (we will swap wins and losses with all the AFCE this year)
14 Sun, Dec 11 at San Diego L (face it, 12-4 for a reason last year. THey are good, LT, Brees, young good WR)
15 Sun, Dec 18 NY Jets W (Fiedler will lose it for them...)
16 Sat, Dec 24 Tennessee L (Close one, but they are also good...?? at RB, but good WR...real good...McNair is a gamer)
17 Sun, Jan 1 at New England L (we lose in the snow. No doubt)


That's a total of 7 wins and 9 losses. Not based on my gut, but based on what they have versus what we have. IF you disagree, then please back it up with comments. Not homerism. Thanks guys. Look forward to hearing ya out. :)

I understand what you are trying to do with this but on the same hand, if all the games where decided on what is on paper what would be the point of playing the game? On paper we might be one of the worse teams and still might go out and play great all year. The Pats were never the best team on paper and look what that got them.