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Schein: Ross is clueless and Miami has the worst quarterback corps in the league

Hey our QB situation is one of the best in the league we have depth big time compared to 90 percent of the clubs. Gerard may be getting a bit older but you can win with the guy, Moore proved last year he is capable and Ryann T. just about every draft nik out there claims might be as good as any QB drafted this year not named Luck. So this one lone Indian can crow as much as he likes and he will look real good for just about the only guy making this claim or a lost voice int he wilderness that no one will remember how he was running his mouth. I am betting on the latter not just becaus I am a phins fan but because I have been looking at about everything I can find out about our picks in this years drafts. About the only players that was picked a bit higher than his projection was the WR Cunningham in the 6th round. In Lindy's projection last year Ryann T was rated in the top 5 QB's, the TE from Missouri we picked in the late 3rd was ranked 1st, the DT from Texas we picked in the 7th was rated in top 5, Martin the OT we got in the 2nd was ranked 1st and Jeff Fuller the FA WR from Texas AM was ranked 4th. So many of our picks this year would have gone in 1st or 2nd rounds if they had come out last year. Their production slipped this year but this proved that many of our picks have the ability but wether it was injuries, coaches changes or just a bit of college seniorits these guys come with a track record. I am more nervous more about our Miami U picks because of their lack college production so they are more projection picks than proven picks but seeing that the U is so close by I also beleive that Ireland will weed that out as much as you can. Ireland is a pretty decent talent GM. Our track record the past 3-4 years both in college and FA has improved IMO>
 
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What a clown this guy is. This is the same guy that gave the Dolphins 2012 draft a grade of a "F".

Just more bulletin board material for the Dolphins players. Time to shock the world!
Schein seems to hate everything and always includes the word "worst" trying to make a statement.
Ok, I can accept we're far to have an elite passer, but Miami's situation isn't as bad as he pointed, as with Moore, Garrard and Tannehill, all three seem to be above of serviceable QB, unlike what I see on Jacksonville, Oakland, NY Jets, Buffalo and Tampa Bay. In fact I could agree we're lacking of quality receivers, but that could be equally wrong as we're in May and there won't be any games in several weeks.
Fools like this will eat their words once Philbin's boy get important Ws to prove them wrong.
 
Losing 2 title games is not a big achievement in case you were not aware.

It's better than never getting there, right? You guys haven't amde a title game since 1992, haven't been close since 1994.

You were the one who brought up these QBs anyway, don't give me **** for your examples. You started this all by talking about Jim Plunkett. Then you bring up Pastorini, D. Williams, and whoever else you mentioned.

It's funny you have the audacity to tell me that they are different eras when it was your deflection in the first place about Eli Manning being elite.

I brought up Plunkett to prove a point and I did. He wasn't elite and neither is Eli, just b/c both won 2 SBs as starting QBs doesn't make them elite.
 
I brought up Plunkett to prove a point and I did. He wasn't elite and neither is Eli, just b/c both won 2 SBs as starting QBs doesn't make them elite.

Proved to who? You said yourself why compare QBs from different eras yet now you've proven a point to some phantom apparently.

If winning the SB twice in 5 seasons and both times being SB MVP isn't elite, I weep for the QBs in the league.
 
Proved to who? You said yourself why compare QBs from different eras yet now you've proven a point to some phantom apparently.

If winning the SB twice in 5 seasons and both times being SB MVP isn't elite, I weep for the QBs in the league.

I didn't post individual #s, you stated Eli was elite b/c he won 2 Sbs in 5 seasons, if that's the case why isn't Jim elite w/ 2 in 4?

NEITHER is or was elite, Eli has a chance to join the elites if he plays a high level for multiple seasons coming up but he's not there yet.
 
I didn't post individual #s, you stated Eli was elite b/c he won 2 Sbs in 5 seasons, if that's the case why isn't Jim elite w/ 2 in 4?

NEITHER is or was elite, Eli has a chance to join the elites if he plays a high level for multiple seasons coming up but he's not there yet.

But two weeks later the Raiders signed him as a backup, and though Plunkett asked for a trade after sitting behind Ken Stabler for two years, Oakland boss Al Davis made him stick around for the 1980 season. When new starter Dan Pastorini broke his leg in early October, Plunkett came in and rallied the Raiders from a 2-3 start all the way to a Super Bowl XV triumph over the Philadelphia Eagles. He completed 13 of 21 passes for 261 yards and three touchdowns in Oakland's 27-10 victory, earning MVP honors and cementing one of the great comeback stories of that or any other season.
Plunkett wasn't through: He led the team to a second Super Bowl triumph three seasons later--the franchise's third and most recent championship--and stayed on the Raiders' roster until he was 40, finally retiring when he was waived shortly before the 1988 season.

For those few years I'd say he was elite. I wouldn't really know though seeing as how this all happened before I was alive or no more than 5 years old. It doesn't change the fact that Eli Manning and the Giants are elite while the Jets aren't.

I do encourage you to look for more outdated QB information to try and back up your biased opinions about who is and isn't elite though. This is getting fun.
 
For those few years I'd say he was elite. I wouldn't really know though seeing as how this all happened before I was alive or no more than 5 years old. It doesn't change the fact that Eli Manning and the Giants are elite while the Jets aren't.

I do encourage you to look for more outdated QB information to try and back up your biased opinions about who is and isn't elite though. This is getting fun.

The Giants are elite, Eli is not and according to your criteria the Giants weren't elite from '07-'10 b/c they didn't win a playoff game '08-'10.

I gave you a valid comparison, you were the one posting their individual #s b/c you were lost in this discussion.
 
The Giants are elite, Eli is not and according to your criteria the Giants weren't elite from '07-'10 b/c they didn't win a playoff game '08-'10.

I gave you a valid comparison, you were the one posting their individual #s b/c you were lost in this discussion.

I never said the Giants were elite before winning it this year. I am glad to know you're in full understanding of what I think elite actually means.

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I gave you a valid comparison, you were the one posting their individual #s b/c you were lost in this discussion.

I lost what? I was unaware there was a correct opinion amongst all of us here. You disagree with me means you win. It's fantastic logic.
 
I never said the Giants were elite before winning it this year. I am glad to know you're in full understanding of what I think elite actually means.

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I lost what? I was unaware there was a correct opinion amongst all of us here. You disagree with me means you win. It's fantastic logic.

according to your standards we won't know if the '11 Giants were elite until the next few years.

You were lost in the discussion, you had no idea how to respond to the plunkett posting. You thought 2 SB titles automatically gave Eli the title of elite.
 
according to your standards we won't know if the '11 Giants were elite until the next few years.

You were lost in the discussion, you had no idea how to respond to the plunkett posting. You thought 2 SB titles automatically gave Eli the title of elite.
Kind of like your assumption that the Jets appearing in back to back AFCG makes them elite.
 
Kind of like your assumption that the Jets appearing in back to back AFCG makes them elite.

That's not an assumption that's a fact.

ONLY team to reach 2 title games
ONLY AFC team to win 4 playoff games
Tied for NFL lead in playoff wins
 
That's not an assumption that's a fact.

ONLY team to reach 2 title games
ONLY AFC team to win 4 playoff games
Tied for NFL lead in playoff wins

Sorry no one remembers the 2nd, or 3rd runner up in beauty pageant.
 
You were lost in the discussion, you had no idea how to respond to the plunkett posting. You thought 2 SB titles automatically gave Eli the title of elite.

Lost in the discussion or I lost to you? Which is it, my internet bravado needs to know.

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according to your standards we won't know if the '11 Giants were elite until the next few years.

Maybe your reading comprehension isn't what you think either. The Giants are elite now b/c of their 2011 title that occurred after their 2007 title. See how that's done?

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That's not an assumption that's a fact.

ONLY team to reach 2 title games
ONLY AFC team to win 4 playoff games
Tied for NFL lead in playoff wins

Also lead NFL in failed to win the AFCCG twice category too
 
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