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Sharpe: "Dolphins' Problems on Offense Can be Laid at Tannehill's Feet"

I don't think anyone with knowledge of the game is saying some of those sacks are not on him but you give the perception that all of them are on him and that just isn't so.

This. Exactly this.
 
Duh I am...

I spelled the dif out for you earlier -> Rodgers was surrounded by skill players do I also need to explain that Rodgers was more mature having sat behind Favre in GBs system? I would expect his rating to be overall higher...

How about that concussion? Dude held onto the ball too long I guess...
Like I have repeated numerous times. No ability to look at the big picture.
 
I don't think anyone with knowledge of the game is saying some of those sacks are not on him but you give the perception that all of them are on him and that just isn't so.
Let me be clearer then: the ones over and above the league norm are on him in my opinion.
 
Duh I am...

I spelled the dif out for you earlier -> Rodgers was surrounded by skill players
Wait, now the "weapons" still aren't enough? :unsure:

do I also need to explain that Rodgers was more mature having sat behind Favre in GBs system? I would expect his rating to be overall higher...
By 20 points? You think it might be possible that Aaron Rodgers, the QB with the highest career rating of all time in the National Football League, might just simply be better?

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Like I have repeated numerous times. No ability to look at the big picture.
Clearly you've turned to talking about me because you have nothing of value to offer to the actual topic. :)
 
Let me be clearer then: the ones over and above the league norm are on him in my opinion.
League norm meaning time. Again, you rely solely on statistical data to form your opinion. Statistics are important and useful but not the end all when it comes to athletics.

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Wait, now the "weapons" still aren't enough? :unsure:

By 20 points? You think it might be possible that Aaron Rodgers, the QB with the highest career rating of all time in the National Football League, might just simply be better?

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Clearly you've turned to talking about me because you have nothing of value to offer to the actual topic.
:)
What exactly have you contributed that has value?
 
Before you call his growth stagnant look at the improvement on 3d down and 4th quarter efficiency. No doubt he has a ways to go and he is at fault for some of his sacks but his overall growth has been good and warrants him remaining the starter for the foreseeable future.

Don't forget that we lead the NFL in Red Zone Efficiency as well and that's a direct reflection of the QB making smart decisions with the ball and making plays when they're there to be made.

No question that there have been many times where Tannehill has held onto the ball too long and not thrown to open receivers underneath but I'm thinking that's partly because he's trying too hard to get the ball to Wallace (and sometimes Clay) for big plays. He's got to get better at going through his progressions and taking what the defense gives him. Once he starts to do that with regularity his QB rating and our success will improve dramatically.
 
League norm meaning time.
No, the league norm meaning the percentage of pressured dropbacks in which a sack is taken. This is where Tannehill is astronomically out of the ordinary in comparison to other NFL QBs.

I suspect if he wasn't doing the things Sharpe pointed out, he'd be sacked no more often when pressured than the average QB, and "sacks" -- the thing we've spent so much time on here lately -- wouldn't be much of a topic of discussion at all. He'd look like every other QB in that regard, and the offensive line would "look" better to us as well.
 
Wait, now the "weapons" still aren't enough? :unsure:

By 20 points? You think it might be possible that Aaron Rodgers, the QB with the highest career rating of all time in the National Football League, might just simply be better?

Are some of the sacks his fault? Sure. I think to put the majority of them on him when he has two tackles who are obviously struggling to protect him and a couple of rbs who also suck at pass protection just isn't accurate. Tannehill has his issues and again, I'm still on the fence in regard to whether he is our future at qb or not, but the fact that he is struggling is more of a reason that his line should elevate their game and they are letting him and the team down big time IMO.
 
No, the league norm meaning the percentage of pressured dropbacks in which a sack is taken. This is where Tannehill is astronomically out of the ordinary in comparison to other NFL QBs.

I suspect if he wasn't doing the things Sharpe pointed out, he'd be sacked no more often when pressured than the average QB, and "sacks" -- the thing we've spent so much time on here lately -- wouldn't be much of a topic of discussion at all. He'd look like every other QB in that regard, and the offensive line would "look" better to us as well.

How does Tannehill rate in the percentage of pressured dropbacks where he's thrown an INT? I'm betting he's well above the league average there.
 
:rolleyes2:
Roll your eyes if you'd like, but a snapshot photo tells us nothing about whether Tannehill had already missed an open receiver, a la the Sharpe video, when those photos of him being pressured were taken.

When you look at just one still photo from a play, you certainly don't have the "all-22" perspective Sharpe had in that video, and you can't start and stop the tape as he did. Instead you're focused on the thin slice of the play during which Tannehill was pressured, and how he looked to be so affected by it, rather than focusing also on what happened previously during the play, which could've consisted of exactly what Sharpe pointed out.

Who knows? What we do know is that when you focus on a snapshot photo, you blow the rest of the play from consideration in whatever conclusions you're making.
 
How does Tannehill rate in the percentage of pressured dropbacks where he's thrown an INT? I'm betting he's well above the league average there.

I'm guessing this stat doesn't make Tannehill look bad and therefore no response from Shouright will be coming?
 
I'm guessing this stat doesn't make Tannehill look bad and therefore no response from Shouright will be coming?
"Shouright: your all-service one-stop for statistics, smart-ass remarks, and your general repository for your frustration about the team. Please, come again." :)
 
Always entertaining when one person rips a player over and over again to the point where it becomes an agenda. We get it...we get it.
 
Always entertaining when one person rips a player over and over again to the point where it becomes an agenda. We get it...we get it.
Funny, I thought this thread was about what Sterling Sharpe said? :unsure:
 
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