Slimm's 2019 Safeties (seniors)

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  1. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    1. Johnathan Abram / Mississippi St. / 6'0", 215

    2. Delvon Randall / Temple / 6'0", 208

    3. Sheldrick Redwine / Miami / 6'1", 200

    4. Zedrick Woods / Ole Miss / 5'11", 201

    5. Andrew Wingard / Wyoming / 6'0", 205

    6. Marvell Tell / USC / 6'2", 195

    7. Jonathan Crawford / Indiana / 6'2", 203

    8. Justin Clifton / Arkansas St. / 6'0", 213

    9. Darius West / Kentucky / 6'1", 210

    10. Cameron Glenn / Wake Forest / 6'1", 205

    11. A.J. Westbrook / Florida St. / 6'0", 192

    12. Mark McLaurin / Mississippi St. / 6'2", 215

    13. JoJo McIntosh / Washington / 6'1", 215

    14. Kendall Adams / Kansas St. / 6'1", 228

    15. Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles / Arizona / 6'2", 209

    16. Vaughnte Dorsey / Texas Tech / 5'11", 200

    17. Marcus Epps / Wyoming / 6'0", 206

    18. Khari Willis / Michigan St. / 6'0", 215

    19. Cedarius Rookard / Troy / 6'1", 205

    20. D'Cota Dixon / Wisconsin / 5'10", 202

    21. Santos Ramirez / Arkansas / 6'2", 204

    22. Tyree Kinnel / Michigan / 5'11", 202

    23. Tre Neal / Nebraska / 6'2", 210

    24. Dameon Baber / Nevada / 5'10", 205

    25. Dravon Askew-Henry / W. Virginia / 6'0", 202

    26. Frank Buncom / Stanford / 6'2", 205

    27. Will Harris / Boston College / 6'2", 210

    28. McKinley Whitfield / Tulsa / 6'3", 217

    29. Kiy Hester / Rutgers / 6'0", 208












    Nickel Safety:

    1. Nasir Adderley / Delaware / 5’11”, 200

    2. Mike Edwards / Kentucky / 6'0", 200

    3. Darnell Savage Jr. / Maryland / 5'11", 200

    4. P.J. Locke / Texas / 5'11", 210

    5. Adarius Pickett / UCLA / 5'11”, 200

    6. Jaquan Johnson / Miami / 5'11", 190

    7. Marquis Blair / Utah / 6'2", 195

    8. Jalen Young / FAU / 5'11", 185

    9. Nik Needham / UTEP / 6'0", 203

    10. Jah'Shawn Johnson / Texas Tech / 5'10", 190

    11. Ridwan Issahaku / TCU / 6'1", 196
     
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    I realize it's tough to get looks at FCS guys but if you get a chance, take a look at S Nasir Adderley of Delaware.

    He's a deep safety that seems extremely RELIABLE as a tackler, even fighting through blocks to bring down the ball carrier.

    I love his easy back pedal, and he shows really good horizontal range on the deep end.



    Easton Stick use his eyes and a slot WR on a deep post to drag Adderley all the way to the offensive right hash, before clicking over and throw the deep fade to the offensive left sideline.

    Adderley still managed to make it to just outside the numbers by the time the ball got there. He was perhaps 10 feet shy of making a play that he had no business being 10 feet shy of making, and the net effect was he was able to help make sure that went down as a 40 yard gain instead of a 50 yard touchdown.

    Can easily see why he's got 8 interceptions and 15 PDs the last two years.

    Bottom line you find me a guy that thrives in deep center like that, shows that kind of range and easy movement skills, also seems to be pretty disciplined, AND he makes you feel good about tackling in space, fighting through blocks...that's a good sell.

    BONUS: Ball skills and verticality here (didn't make the play but damn)



    Look at him separate this player from the football...

     
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  3. TedSlimmJr

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    That's a big boy throw Easton Stick made at 8:19 in the top video. Exceptional. The Adderley kid got abused on that one coming up to make a tackle.

    Stick really is a fantastic athlete for the position. The Adderley kid does look like a prospect though. Where'd you find this kid? It'd be interesting to see how he performed in an All-Star setting.
     
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    Was watching Easton Stick, just like you were doing.

    It seemed like Delaware was running a pretty good secondary coverage against NDSU so there had to be some pretty good athletes in there, and what flashed at me most was the range of Adderley on the play I described. I'd just seen the kid on the left hash mark and all the sudden he's 10 feet shy of the right sideline? That's something. So I go back and watch the whole thing, and with the exception of the play you mentioned where he came up on the wrong angle for the tackle (I'd actually be curious to know what he saw on that)...he was having a day.

    Incidentally...yeah Stick got ALL of that one. I was pretty astounded. I'm still astounded, as I sit here and look at the measurements on that throw. I did *not* know he had that in him. I'll have to look at my fuller library to be sure but I'm not sure I had any one of Lock's throws quite where that one came out, in terms of distance/avg.speed.
     
  5. TedSlimmJr

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    Most Underrated: Johnathan Abram, Delvon Randall, Zedrick Woods, Justin Clifton, Mike Edwards, Darnell Savage Jr., P.J. Locke, Nik Needham.

    Most Overrated: N/A.
     
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    Edwards and Savage in particular feel like guys the NFL should covet - with their versatility, ball skills, and general ability to make plays in space. I'd throw in Thornhill with that group as players I'd target in the 3rd Round. I feel like one or two of then go in the 2nd, and they probably should, but I think there's a good chance one slips through the cracks. Shoot, Justin Reid fell to the 3rd last year, so maybe one of these guys falls to the 4th.
     
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    Nasir Adderley has accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl.
     
  8. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    That's usually a good sign for an FCS kid to get a Senior Bowl invite already.
     
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    How would you describe the differences and strengths/weakness of the two Wyoming safeties?

    Would you agree that although Wingard has starting ability in the NFL as a one-on-one tackler, he has some liabilities in coverage in terms of range and recognition?

    While Epps has a better feel for coverage and ball skills?

    How do you stack these two on your board and what defensive styles do you believe are best fits for each?
     
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    That's exactly how I felt about them. I haven't watched either much this year, so I need to do that. My general sense is that Wingard is better at what he does, but Epps has a skillset that translates better. Both guys do (or did last time I watched) an excellent job of finding the ball. After 2016, I felt like Epps was primed to develop into a Day-2 Safety prospect. 2017 was a little disappointing for me. Unless he's improved substantially, I'll have him Day 3, but of those types of Safeties, I like his chances of developing into a starter - since development isn't linear. Wingard is very good, but I feel like he needs to run better than I think he will to make me like his chances of seeing the field a lot as a pro. He's kind of like a small LB, and I don't think he has the frame to make a trip like Nate Gerry (who was much better in coverage/had much better ball skills). I like him as a player, and I'm unsure of him as an NFL prospect. Of course, maybe 2018 tape changes my mind. Wingard's best chance is a Cover 3 team liking him as a SS, and I think Epps can play in 2-deep looks.
     
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    He has no business out here with these children...


     

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