So what is the backup plan for Gase/FOto save his job

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  1. Tannchise

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    strategic thinking here. A lot of this is lacked on the board and on the team. How does Gase and the FO save their jobs in 2019? Let’s assume the decent probability that Tannehill gets hurt, the team sucks, or a combination? What would save their jobs? I think Again that developing a future qb, which should have been done this year, is the key. Even having it in house would do this based on salary cap savings in 2019. I think Gase and the FO need to show they have something in house for future job security. We need to stop thinking Tannehill will just come in and win super bowls.
     
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    The Dolphins biggest problems start before the ball is even snapped. Penalties, not knowing routes, snap counts, coverages, or blocking assignments. Then when the ball is snapped: freelancing, holding, missed tackles, pass interference, and personal fouls out of frustration. This is on the coaching staff to fix on the field, and the management to fix when choising players. And stability at QB would clean up a lot of the offenses issues. It’s easy to pick out talent, but it’s hard to change a team culture on the fly.
     
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    "strategic thinking"
     
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    Shula should be brought in and his mind picked on how he prepared the players. Whatever he did it was very effective. It could be we just been drafting "dumb" players, but I like to believe it is fixable. If I was Ross I would think hard about questioning Gase over playcalling duty. He's young and learning. I would think you could make the argument his plate is full based on the team's list of problems they had on the field this year. I know it's popular to bash the FO, but I feel the young players have shown enough to merit some confidence in this area.
     
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    Not to be that guy, but Don Shula is almost 90. He's still fairly sharp, from what I can tell, but I'm not certain that he's the best source for that.
     
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    If Tannehill goes down again it won't be enough to save Gase.
    This is why we have to draft a QB this year. We need someone to groom.
     
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    The drafting of Josh Allen. If we get him and let him sit and learn for a year, then by 2019 fans will be happy with the FO for having him ready to go.

    Tannehill just may come in here and win SB's, but who knows. What we do know is that Allen is another Carson Wentz and how often do we get a shot at picking this high? With that, the Jets will probably snag him.
     
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    If Tannehill plays in sept he would have been out for 21 months

    Do we really have a franchise that depends on that?
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    Ross considers Gase a “young Shula”, per pretty much everyone. Gase is as safe as it gets, especially if something like Tannehill getting injured happens. Mike Tennenbaum and Chris Grier are more likely to be removed before Gase.
     
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    He will get to draft a QB. He's safe like Locke just said
     
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    LOL. Love the certainty.
     
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    Should every QB that gets hurt early in the season or in the preseason be cut since they will have played very little over a 21 or 22 month period?
     
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    Gase's job is perfectly safe
     
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    Going to have to draft and sign FA that are smarter than the ones we already have on the team. That shouldn't be too hard.
     
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    Meh, what do I know? Lol,
     
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    As long T-bum is there. Get ready to go through few coaches til Ross realize it's T-bum, and not the coaches. There be to many holes every year while he's there
     
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    If Gase is safe and TannenGrier leave, then you need to find a new GM who will want to keep Gase, and likely Tannehill.
     
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    How come you NEVER address the post or question? If Tannehill craps the bed or gets injured and there is no backup except Matt Moore, his job is safe? That would mean in a bad season, no qb in training and that means 2019 would be the first year of a new qb. You may be the Founder of the Adam Gase Club, but if the above happens and there is no transition plan, he will get canned

    I will also add this. In a bad season, it wasnt like they developed anyone, except Drake. And, they are not better off salary cap wise. In a loser year, there was nothing much to hang your hat on, except a qb is coming back after 22 months off
     
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    I'd be fine with that. We might or might not win with Gase and Tannehill but we're no winning with t-dumb and Grier

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Tell me what has to happen then for Gase to be fired? Im curious where the line is. He had Manning and that was an overrated OC job and his job w the Bears sucked.
     
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    Howard, Davis, Tankersley, Drake, Phillips, Godchaux. We have alot of good young talent
     
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    Please make a list of all the teams that had a legit transition plan (i.e. spending a high pick or making a big FA signing) for a starting QB that they are happy with during the first 7 years of the QBs career.

    I can't believe that I have to point this out but TEAMS DO NOT DO THIS. Teams have ONE STARTER and a QB that is intended to be a backup only or they have a STARTING QB NEAR THE END OF THEIR CAREER and a QB to be groomed or they have NO LEGIT STARTERS and are biding time until they get one.
     
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    Next year? He wont be fired. End of. Obsessing over it wont make it happen.

    I would love to see Tannenbaum fired, it aint happening anytime soon. Though he would probably still go before Gase
     
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    Stop it right there! You bringing facts into the discussion will only confuse his Tannehill and Gase sucks narrative and agenda. Try hyperbole or rants with no facts, much easier to understand.
     
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    This guy is going on a tear of really really bad postings.
     
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    I think if gase stays everyone stays and that is the bigger problem.
     
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    What?????? No one gets fired in 2019 if we have a bad year? You are dilusional. Gase is no different than any coach out there. Cam Cameron was called the next Shual too
     
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    No it is thought provoking. Makes you think outside the mediocre box of Tannehill and Gase
     
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    What has a decent probability? Tannehill getting hurt again? Why do you think that is probable? Just having torn one acl doesn't make automatically injury prone.

    Also, we absolutely need to draft a back up qb / someone to develop behind RT. Who will be the starting qb this year, therefore HIGHLY unlikely we take a 1st or even 2nd round qb. I'm all for getting someone but not just picking someone to pick them.

    And jesus man, why don't you ever post about anything other than tannehill / gase? you know there are plenty of other facets of the team right? Facets which need more attention than the starting qb /hc

    Make a post about the linebackers. the lack of a pass rush. how we will patch up the OL? The safety situation. The rb's. Even your thread about landry was practicaly a lowkey rt bash thread
     
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    Actually, the number of months matters little. Look at in terms on games. Brady in 2008 went down in the first game. He missed 15+ games. Tannehill went down with 3 to go in 2016 and all of 2017, that is 19+ games. Really not that much difference, but the OP is, well you know the OP
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    You’re asking random dudes on the Internet a question that only Ross can answer. All we know is Ross loves Gase. What it would take to get him fired is anyone’s guess.
     
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    Hc and qb is what makes the team my friend. Look at majority of playoff teams, esp in Pitt and NE
     
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    Also, one thing we know about Ross is he keeps people around forever. If Sparano and Philbin were able to last as long as they did here, Gase is safe for the foreseeable future.
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    That’s a good point. From all accounts, he was lukewarm on Philbin and had no ties to Sparano and kept them both far longer than anyone else would have. Gase, someone he actually likes, is pretty cemented here.
     
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    Lol.....thank goodness we have you to "strategic think" for us.
     
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    It's not thought provoking at all. It's the exact same thing over and over. Completely boring and uninspiring. Also predictable.
     
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    Well we should have developed a qb this past season. But those in the Tannehill Fan Club and the Gase Fan Club, thought no qb was needed because Tannehill is a fast healer lol
     
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    Kind of like our Miami dolphins
     
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    Good post.

    Nothing wrong with drafting a QB for development, but teams don't keep two starters on their rosters. The football saying is "if you have two QB's, you have none"......your post nailed it.
     
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    No he wasn't.
     
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