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We have had a bit of bad news, but has it really reached horribe status yet...I don't think so.

We lost two Receiver we had last year upt out of the season because of COVID-19, one of which was expected to be our 3rd best and an important part of the offense:

Though it hurts to lose Wilson, we have some good young talent that can easily make us forget Wilson and Hurns are no longer here. I personally sm excited to see if Perry can be as dynamic in the slot, as I think he could be. Also Ford's time in here, and he's proving he should be be over Hurns anyway.

Fitz will be out indefinitely:

I will not lie, him here would have been better, then him not, with the way he was being a positive role model, and teaching Tua the ropes...And who knows he coukd have had a few good games if his issue was not noodle arm syndrome, but he still could have been a decent backup.

Eventually Rosen and Tua were going to come in to take the starting job, unless Fitz had been killing it all season, which we all know with his history and age, very doubtful. Now we get a quick look at Rosen, which will help us decide what we do with him going forward, and eventually Tua take over for a hopefully amazing ride for many year in Miami.

Not much has really changed:

The Defense is looking better with each coming day...We have two RBs that look to be huge upgrade from last year...We have two really talented receivers with solid to better talent behind them...Our O-line, though have a ways to go (They need to play together, and get comfortable with each other), are looking pretty good individually...Last but most important, nothing has changed with our coaching, so if you believed in them before, they are still on track to make their plans come true.

Of course, just my rambling opinions, but still believe this us about to he a very special season for us.
 
tay0365 said:
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Fitz will be out indefinitely:

I will not lie, him here would have been better, then him not, with the way he was being a positive role model, and teaching Tua the ropes...And who knows he coukd have had a few good games if his issue was not noodle arm syndrome, but he still could have been a decent backup.
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Not sure whether you are suggesting that Fitz or Tua has a noodle arm , but just to be clear, Fitz has plenty of arm strength. Right now, Fitz's arm is considerably stronger than Tua's because of Tua's hip rehab. Once Tua is fully rehabbed ... I think Fitz will still have a stronger arm unless he precipitously declines in arm strength.

Today's reports underline Tua's lack of arm strength in particular, and if Tua's is the "noodle arm" to which you are referring, then I get that, but just would like to re-emphasize that it is a function of rehabbing his hip. Good QB's torque their body to throw, thereby generating much more power in their throws, so while Tua never had great arm strength, his current deficiency is temporary. Perhaps that is what you meant, and if so, I just wanted to clarify it so no one misunderstood.
 
Bro I have no idea what is going on in this post. Stop playing with my emotions guys. Did Fitz retire? Who gives a ****? It's Tua time baby!
 
Fitz labors to throw the ball. If Tua has less arm strength than Fitz, that's horrible. Love Fitz, but we were (are) going nowhere with Fitz. Fitz is a positive role model for Tua, and Tua (and the OLine) isn't ready to go yet.
 
Noodle Arm!?!


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Digital said:
Not sure whether you are suggesting that Fitz or Tua has a noodle arm , but just to be clear, Fitz has plenty of arm strength. Right now, Fitz's arm is considerably stronger than Tua's because of Tua's hip rehab. Once Tua is fully rehabbed ... I think Fitz will still have a stronger arm unless he precipitously declines in arm strength.
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Actually I am going with the supposed talk (thanks to that great expert eye of Omar Kelly) that Fitz arm might be shot. I have not seen it, so I am not making any opinions one way or the other (Though if Omar said it was weak, that might mean it might be rivaling Elway right now). That why I wrote if it's not noodle arm syndrome as some have been speculating that is the reason he is not with Miami at the moment.

Digital said:
Today's reports underline Tua's lack of arm strength in particular, and if Tua's is the "noodle arm" to which you are referring, then I get that, but just would like to re-emphasize that it is a function of rehabbing his hip. Good QB's torque their body to throw, thereby generating much more power in their throws, so while Tua never had great arm strength, his current deficiency is temporary. Perhaps that is what you meant, and if so, I just wanted to clarify it so no one misunderstood.
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No, Tua is just working his way back to playing shape again, so if his arm is not up to standards, that is understandable, but it will eventually reach that point considering how hard a worker I hear he is. I was talking about what the reason Fitz was not with Miami...for the record I also am not buying it (just on what Kelly believes) until I see it, or told by someone that matters like the coaches, players, or Fitz himself.
 
Burt Macklin said:
Fitz may be back Monday. Calm your tits dude. Out indefinitely can mean 1 day or 1000 days. Relax
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Well that is great news if it's around 1 day, but you may need to take it down a tad. Where is there any panic in anything I wrote, all I said was if FITZ is indeed out, that will hurt a bit.

Unless you have special information that nobody else does of it being more to the 1 day missing aspect...maybe you may need to ta, you may need to be the one relaxing. ;)
 
illscriptures said:
Bro I have no idea what is going on in this post. Stop playing with my emotions guys. Did Fitz retire? Who gives a ****? It's Tua time baby!
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personally speaking I don’t want Tua playing behind an OL with at least two rookies, at least four new starters and no preseason to work out the kinks. Would be much happier to see him come in after the season starts than Week 1
 
tay0365 said:
Actually I am going with the supposed talk (thanks to that great expert eye of Omar Kelly) that Fitz arm might be shot. I have not seen it, so I am not making any opinions one way or the other (Though if Omar said it was weak, that might mean it might be rivaling Elway right now). That why I wrote if it's not noodle arm syndrome as some have been speculating that is the reason he is not with Miami at the moment.



No, Tua is just working his way back to playing shape again, so if his arm is not up to standards, that is understandable, but it will eventually reach that point considering how hard a worker I hear he is. I was talking about what the reason Fitz was not with Miami...for the record I also am not buying it (just on what Kelly believes) until I see it, or told by someone that matters like the coaches, players, or Fitz himself.
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Yeah, OK, now I understand. Let's just say that I'm not going to take what Omar Kelly says without a canister of Morton Salt. Last year Fitz's arm was strong, and I'll be surprised if he fell off dramatically this offseason--although that is exactly what happens to some older QB's, so it is possible. Let's just say if I were a betting man, my money would be on Fitz's arm still being plenty strong.

Tua is definitely throwing weak passes based on what we've seen in the very limited video clips, but we agree that it is a function of his rehab. Good to see that neither of us is worried.
 
some times you just gotta be real -- it was pretty obvious in college before the hip

that Tua has a less than spectacular "NFL" arm. Couple that with lower body torque

issues and of course his range / velocity are going to be compromised in comparison

to what a high performance "NFL" arm can do in terms of depth / velocity.

If Tua is going to win in the NFL (IMO) he's going to do it based on accuracy, anticipation

and nuance stuff like looking off etc. The kid is never going to remotely resemble a beast

like Marino, or Mahomes, or Rodgers... Have to hope the hip becomes a ZERO issue and

the kid can gradually add some additional arm strength / zip / velocity because he isn't

going to have receivers OPEN like he did in college. Peeps forget the #1 challenge for

ANY college QB coming into the PROs = will their game translate? So let's just be real

for a second because so far Tua hasn't proved anything at the NFL level. Tho I know

it's apparently lots of fun for some to continuously trash Rosen -- Josh has the superior arm.

BNF
 
It sure would be nice to get some positive news out of camp. Aside from the surprise players that shine unexpectedly. Seems to be the same thing for the last decade. QB struggles, O/line struggles and rookie struggles.
 
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