.. like the abortive Kyle Orton trade, as it turned out we had a better FA in house already signed.
I'm tired of seeing the snide media and fan comments about "losing out, striking out," or whatever on Fisher and settling for the best of the rest.
IMO that's BS. Yes Ross and Ireland did fail in their attempts to sign this guy, and that's important but from we fans' perspective, I believe it's a relief that we came up short in that attempt and instead have signed a forward and fresh thinking offensive coach who's held in the highest esteem by his team, including the great Aaron Rodgers and if you read the forums, also by the majority of the Pack's fans. Compare that to this forum's opinion of Sparano, of Wanny, of Henning.. big difference. Very few here bemoaned their departure as a loss to the club like they are now in Green Bay.
Fisher was no prize; it's comical how just because legitimate winning coaches like Cowher, Gruden, Coughlin and Reid were unavailable, he was anointed as a game-changing "catch." What kind of "catch" delivers his fans 6 winning seasons out of 17? a 3rd and 4th place finish over the last 2 seasons going 14-18 in a relatively weak division? An anachronistic pre-2004 QB friendly regs "run first" mindset? 2 whole wins in the playoffs since the start of the new Millennium?
Now the argument is that Fisher was saddled with a cheap and meddlesome owner and that's why he understandably has control concerns if not outright issues. That's all fine and dandy until you consider that no one twisted his arm to renew his contract several times over the course of 17 years with this same restrictive owner, especially when he could have gone elsewhere. Whose judgment and inability to think beyond the obvious does that impugn? (it's sure not Bud Adams). Was he saddled with Vince Young by Adams? Yes certainly and that sucks, until you consider that VY went 30-17 for him, reflecting a helluva lot better winning percentage than Fisher's overall record.
Philbin is fresh off a great season with a disappointing end on the heels of an unbelievable Cinderella 2010 Superbowl championship having to shuffle his offensive parts resourcefully as key assets kept getting injured during the season. An OC who Rodgers credits with playing a large part in his professional and personal development. Unlike Fisher, he's got the psychological success imprint and positive expectation of winning.
IMO while there's no guarantee that Philbin's performances to date will translate into Headcoaching successes, the potential upside, even of the unknown is so much greater than what we reasonably can project that Fisher brings to the table.
Now Philbin wasn't my 1st choice, or 2nd or 3rd but I am quickly growing enthused the more I learn about him as a coach and an upright person. It would have been hard for me to muster the same sort of positivity had it been McCoy or Bowles.
So let's stop putting Fisher on an undeserved pedestal, and at least until the FH dysfunctional character kicks in, bask in the realization that for once, it looks like Ross, Ireland and Peterson came up Aces! Whatever the intents, Fisher didn't happen for the best of reasons and hopefully that's Joe Philbin!
I'm tired of seeing the snide media and fan comments about "losing out, striking out," or whatever on Fisher and settling for the best of the rest.
IMO that's BS. Yes Ross and Ireland did fail in their attempts to sign this guy, and that's important but from we fans' perspective, I believe it's a relief that we came up short in that attempt and instead have signed a forward and fresh thinking offensive coach who's held in the highest esteem by his team, including the great Aaron Rodgers and if you read the forums, also by the majority of the Pack's fans. Compare that to this forum's opinion of Sparano, of Wanny, of Henning.. big difference. Very few here bemoaned their departure as a loss to the club like they are now in Green Bay.
Fisher was no prize; it's comical how just because legitimate winning coaches like Cowher, Gruden, Coughlin and Reid were unavailable, he was anointed as a game-changing "catch." What kind of "catch" delivers his fans 6 winning seasons out of 17? a 3rd and 4th place finish over the last 2 seasons going 14-18 in a relatively weak division? An anachronistic pre-2004 QB friendly regs "run first" mindset? 2 whole wins in the playoffs since the start of the new Millennium?
Now the argument is that Fisher was saddled with a cheap and meddlesome owner and that's why he understandably has control concerns if not outright issues. That's all fine and dandy until you consider that no one twisted his arm to renew his contract several times over the course of 17 years with this same restrictive owner, especially when he could have gone elsewhere. Whose judgment and inability to think beyond the obvious does that impugn? (it's sure not Bud Adams). Was he saddled with Vince Young by Adams? Yes certainly and that sucks, until you consider that VY went 30-17 for him, reflecting a helluva lot better winning percentage than Fisher's overall record.
Philbin is fresh off a great season with a disappointing end on the heels of an unbelievable Cinderella 2010 Superbowl championship having to shuffle his offensive parts resourcefully as key assets kept getting injured during the season. An OC who Rodgers credits with playing a large part in his professional and personal development. Unlike Fisher, he's got the psychological success imprint and positive expectation of winning.
IMO while there's no guarantee that Philbin's performances to date will translate into Headcoaching successes, the potential upside, even of the unknown is so much greater than what we reasonably can project that Fisher brings to the table.
Now Philbin wasn't my 1st choice, or 2nd or 3rd but I am quickly growing enthused the more I learn about him as a coach and an upright person. It would have been hard for me to muster the same sort of positivity had it been McCoy or Bowles.
So let's stop putting Fisher on an undeserved pedestal, and at least until the FH dysfunctional character kicks in, bask in the realization that for once, it looks like Ross, Ireland and Peterson came up Aces! Whatever the intents, Fisher didn't happen for the best of reasons and hopefully that's Joe Philbin!
Very nice! I've never thought about it from that perspective but it does make a great deal of sense. I wish never really for or against Fisher being with the Dolphins. I was never sold that he was the answer nor did I feel that he was unable to have success in Miami. Water under the bridge now. He's not the option that was chosen and it's time to move on. Here's hoping that Philbin and his staff can do some solid work that will allow this team to improve significantly in all areas.