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Tannehill would be the future, Philbin for coach of the year, Ireland stays, and this franchise is moving in the right direction?!

One loss less and we cry blow it up! Dump the 2nd year QB! Fire the coach! New GM!

Doesn't that just seem a little silly? Particular when games are lost and won in the trenches and our biggest weakness by a large margin were the men in the trenches.

If you improve something just a little bit one year after the other, wouldn't logic say continue pushing it and you'll get even further the next year? We were relevant all the way up to the final game. Can we please see what happens if we push it just a little more next year?

Why the impatience? It's not like we were going to win the Super Bowl, not with a poor o-line and non-existent running game. Get real. If you don't have the patience for another year of potential and likely further improvement with this regime, guess what, a restart is going to take even longer. Be careful what you ask for.
 
You cannot tank the last two games of the year in the fashion they did. Questions have to arise.
 
How are the last two games we lost Irelands fault lol?How are any of the games we lost his fault? We were in position to win most if not all (except the Saints and last 2). If you guys can't see the improvement from previous years than I don't know.
 
We lost the last two games, but won the three prior. We put ourselves in position in the very final game to get into the playoffs. Last year we were outta it weeks before the end of the season. That is an uphill trajectory, not a down one. And that's despite a scandal that directly affected our offensive line.

The reactions around here are reserved for 4-12 teams or teams with declining records. Where is the common sense around here? I imagine it's being overridden by the emotion of last Sunday still.


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It was a down year for the AFC where a horrific 9-7 record with key losses within the division would have somehow STILL have gotten us in the playoffs, and we had to only beat two of the worst teams in the league...and got BLOWN OUT.

Couple that with a BLOWOUT loss to a winless Tampa Bay team, a scandal that had everyone around the league questioning both our GM and coaching staff, and the seats at a level of emptiness we have not seen in years and this year was nothing short of a trainwreck.

Sadly, there appears to be a perpetual amount of half-measures and "stay the course" talk, while expecting different outcomes from the same variables produces nothing but a consistent level of horse dung.

This team sucks. I love them, but man they are horribly run and suck so, so bad.
 
From what we've heard, this is the why Ross didn't just swing the axe on Monday. He felt everyone was doing well enough at 8-6 to stay and doesn't want to judge them on just 2 games. Supposedly, only reason he is even considering changes is because of the way it ended.
 
I would expect if anyone could see that this team was flawed (offense of line) it would be you Hayden. Take away the bullying scandal and who knows maybe the offense of line would've come around. They almost did it with a completely revamped line from mid-November. There is no justifying this "assassin" type attitude that seems to be permeating from the main board. Just because things didn't work out the way us fans wanted it doesn't give one a free ticket to misbehave or act juvenile. I'm not accusing you of that in the least. It's just the overall poison atmosphere that's been displayed here Since the end of the year.

I'm not happy about the way things fell, but I feel people are failing to have the overall proper perspective. Sure, we all have a right to be disappointed and even angry, get it off our chests and then move on to something more constructive. (I apologize for altering my original post but unfortunately my dictation software doesn't always accurately type what I'm trying to say.)
 
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How are the last two games we lost Irelands fault lol?How are any of the games we lost his fault? We were in position to win most if not all (except the Saints and last 2). If you guys can't see the improvement from previous years than I don't know.
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What improvement are you referring too. The guy has had 6 going on 7 years to build an offensive line, he has one solid starter. So the question i ask, how is this not his fault?
 
Dthrill_08 said:
How are the last two games we lost Irelands fault lol?How are any of the games we lost his fault? We were in position to win most if not all (except the Saints and last 2). If you guys can't see the improvement from previous years than I don't know.
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One word answer: TALENT!!! The Dolphins did not have adequate talent to win the eight games they lost. Jeff Ireland is responsible for acquiring talent. He failed to do so. As a result for the fifth straight season we do not have a winning record or a playoff slot. Because Jeff Ireland failed to provide the talent required it is at the end of the day his fault.
 
In reference to Phin magic's post:

Because he had to cater to two separate regimes that had totally different ideas on how to run those offense of lines. Part of this team's problem is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole as far as OL's goes. If we were not restricted by the draft and the salary I'm sure the present head coach would've blown up the entire offense of line (with possibly the exception of Pouncey) to a smaller more mobile type of offense of player. We'll get there, but not by blowing up the entire infrastructure.
 
I'm also not understanding why we constantly bring up the past to justify change. Sporano sucked, yes. Henne regressed, yes. But what does that have to do with Joe Philbin and Ryan Tannehill?

Look, it is a well regarded fact that the third year for a QB is the key year, where a guy can truly come into his own. These people that want to discard Tannehill are insane to me. Why would you do this? What sense is there to it?

Aaron Rodgers said his most important years were sitting on the bench running the backup practice squad. He said he grew immensely with that experience. Quarterbacks require growth, experience, and there are countless examples of that.

Sure Henne was a dud. But that's irrelevant. What's relevant is Tannehills growth. He grew some this year. And he can grown even more next year. To rip the cord now is silly. Plain and simple.


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For the record I'm not opposed to change at the GM position. 6 years to build a line and this result is sad. I just don't see the need for change with Philbin and Tannehill. They improved this season. If we do not improve next year, and instead regress, consider change. But if something is moving forward, let it continue.


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Despacio said:
Tannehill would be the future, Philbin for coach of the year, Ireland stays, and this franchise is moving in the right direction?!

One loss less and we cry blow it up! Dump the 2nd year QB! Fire the coach! New GM!

Doesn't that just seem a little silly? Particular when games are lost and won in the trenches and our biggest weakness by a large margin were the men in the trenches.

If you improve something just a little bit one year after the other, wouldn't logic say continue pushing it and you'll get even further the next year? We were relevant all the way up to the final game. Can we please see what happens if we push it just a little more next year?

Why the impatience? It's not like we were going to win the Super Bowl, not with a poor o-line and non-existent running game. Get real. If you don't have the patience for another year of potential and likely further improvement with this regime, guess what, a restart is going to take even longer. Be careful what you ask for.
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One loss, one win makes sometimes all the difference in the world. Coaches are being fired and hired over the difference of one game more or less in the win column. Quarterbacks make a difference in critical games. The last two games meant more to this organizations than just making the playoffs. If you don't have coaches who can come up with a game plan before facing two inferior opponents to make the playoffs and when they can not counter act and change throughout the game, yes, you do have a problem.
If we would have missed the playoffs by one game because we were trying to play catch-up. OK. Can happen. But we had the playoffs and we just tossed them away. There is losing and losing. One way of losing is when the other team is just better and the players tried their best and the coaches were trying to come up with plays who may work but it just didn't work because the other team was simply better.
Then you have losing in which your coaching staff looks hapless and helpless and does not attempt to do anything better, when coaches and players just give up and let teams who are worse talent wise totally dominate you.

We had collapses in the past even with the great Marino. But one thing you can never hold against them is the lack of trying, trying to avoid the unavoidable that day. These two games were the biggest two-game collapse in the history of the Miami Dolphins because nobody cared. They turned on their back like a bunch of ****roaches and died.
 
Hayden Fox said:
You cannot tank the last two games of the year in the fashion they did. Questions have to arise.
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There were signs all season that something was wrong with the offense as a whole,Keller and Gibson going down didn't help.The end of the year confirmed it.
 
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